[agrismhig]

OK well i remember when i was falling asleep conciously that i was drifting off into sleep. Suddently maybe astral or dream i woke up in the same room position i was in.

Then i tried grabbing my phone and i was able to open it but it was blurry. Then i thought : why is it blurry, i just opened it a few minutes ago and i looked around the whole place for any magnets. Suddently i felt a feeling that i was dreaming or i had astral projected. At that moment i was like "ok i want to wae up now" and every time i tried and concentrated on sensations because sensations break concentration and therefore you wake up.

So i kept trying to wake up. I tried for about 10 times into i was able to pull back into my physical body. I was aware of my physical but i was out of my body because i was able to see my body which was kind of creepy.

Well then i tried and tried and then my phone vibrated which immediately i went back into my physical body. BUT!! im thinking i was in such trance or state maybe theta or another one that i fell back asleep in like 4 seconds. After that happened i conciously was seeing my body again. I Actually wanted to wake up.

Since im so stubborn and i got a little frightened i calmed myself down so i wouldnt have a bad experience and then tried again and again. It was hard getting back into my body but i used mental power i think or maybe it was my will power ,being so stubborn that got me bac into my physical body.

After that i was like that was creepy and never thought of it as an astral projection. It just occured to me when i was reading about the technique of ROPE that occured because the technique requires will mental power and such things. Now that i think about it i have conciously projected or virtually. I really dont know the difference yet but im getting into astral projecting now.

Wellz thinking of it, I thought the experience was crazy now im willing to actually try it instead of just letting it happen.

Not sure if it was a dream that i couldnt wake up from or if it was astral awareness or a projection.

Please provide some info on my experience. What do you think happened?
Some type of explanation for my experience.

Thankies!!

[agrismhig]

Honestly reading NEW is benefiting me because im starting to discover all these weird phennomenals or psychic experiences that I thought meant nothing.

I usually was able to deal or cope with them because of meditation which helps me calm the mind and makes you wiser.

Thanks for the feedback
Hooray for Astral Secret Agents Roaming Around!!

Its a Cult thing!!

[agrismhig]

I kept reading about NEW in the section about travelling orbit and i have found out that i did astral project LOL!!..which is crazy

the NEW section states when astral projecting and travelling to places states:

"To return from a long distance projection, tune into your body and become aware
of it. Then try moving part of your physical body, i.e., a finger or toe. This will
return you to your body, and end the projection with full memories of the OOBE."

That is what i did without reading this E book "NEW" when you concentrate on a part of your body some how you immediately return to your body.
which i did say in my experience and that is what happens.

I have learned that when astral travelling very far into the galaxy and want to get back into your physical body but dont know your way through space,
just think of your body and try to move a part of it as i did try to move my arm. In NEW he explains a reality check which states if you cannot close your eyes then you know your dreaming or astral projecting.

I did and tried closing but when your in that state you cant close your eyes and your vision is almost 360 degrees.
I can focus behind me without turning around when i was in my experience.

Just by the thought of wanting to look behind me in less than a second i was looking behind me.

Im just learning more by NEW and sharing my experiences. IM looking further into reading the whole tutorial.
And posting ore experiences that cloud my thoughts.

Hope you like reading!!

[emorbimefed]

Yes, it sounds like you astral-projected. I used to do those 'star fields' projections, but not lately. I hope you enjoyed yours. They're fun, aren't they?

[agrismhig]

It was weird because i did it without intention but now that im trying to use ROPE.

Its kind of scary because i feel pressure around my solar plexus.

[emorbimefed]

It was weird because i did it without intention but now that im trying to use ROPE.

Its kind of scary because i feel pressure around my solar plexus.

That's normal, and can be surprising. The more pressure you feel the 'heavier' the pressure feels, the more it's working. It can come to the point that you are making the pressure almost unbearable (like a giant weight on you), and then you may feel/hear a 'pop' and the pressure goes away and you feel yourself floating. Then get away ASAP.

[agrismhig]

Mind asking why move away though.

How do you overcome this obstacle because when the pressure increases the more frightened 95% the people get.
Its like if you feel like your going to die which in a sense kind of prepares you to leave the physical body in order to astral project.

Well so far i havent tried it and i think if you enter a trance state that you will kind of skip the pressure in your solar plexus. Im not sure just a thought.

Well im willing to try it but fear overcomes me just thinking about it but who knows until i try.

Mind me askin once i astral project> can i see live places perhaps my father or a relative in present time. Not that i want to scare them or anything but I would like to travel to places in present live time to see the whats happening. Kind of like spying if i may say but i dont like saying it because its usually negative intentions from that word.

But to get my point across.

Any help you or anyone might help me in>?

Thankies

[emorbimefed]

Mind asking why move away though.

Because when you're close to your physical body it either can pull you back in if you think about it, and because of the proximity you will get feedback from it which can impair your ability to see and move. So you may find yourself flying blind, or moving through jello trying to maneuver around your body.

How do you overcome this obstacle because when the pressure increases the more frightened 95% the people get. It doesn't scare me (never did, other things scared me much more than that) it's more uncomfortable than anything.
Its like if you feel like your going to die That never crossed my mind. You don't feel you're going to die, you think that's what it feels, but there's no way to know that, IMO. So that's just a belief you have to get over.
which in a sense kind of prepares you to leave the physical body in order to astral project. I can't even imagine how you get that, but to each his own, I suppose.
Well so far i havent tried it and i think if you enter a trance state that you will kind of skip the pressure in your solar plexus. No, actually you always have to enter a trance state to project- it's also known as 'mind awake body asleep' or Focus 10, and the deeper you get into trance the more 'real' the sensation will become because, the more you trance the more 'in synch' you get with the nonphysical state, where energy can be seen and felt, and that pressure is only the chakra (in your case, solar plexus, in mine the heart chakra) producing the energy output necessary to 'spit you out'. So this pressure that you feel is actually the energy that will get you out. So the more you feel it the closer you are to projecting. If you think of it in mechanical terms (think of your chakra as a gear that is cranking up the energy) it may help you get over the fear, because, IMO the fear is the worst part, something you need to overcome.

Well im willing to try it but fear overcomes me just thinking about it but who knows until i try. Remember that the astral in a thought-responsive medium- the more fear you have the more scary stuff you will create. So work through it, so you can get over it.

Mind me askin once i astral project> can i see live places perhaps my father or a relative in present time. If you go to the RTZ aka etheric you will go to what you can perceive of 'realtime', which is an energetic version of the material world. Not that i want to scare them or anything but I would like to travel to places in present live time to see the whats happening. Kind of like spying if i may say but i dont like saying it because its usually negative intentions from that word. They won't see you, since you're disembodied, for lack of a better term, and the only way they'll see you is if they're psychic, or if they are sleeping, they'll dream about you. So don't worry about that.


Any help you or anyone might help me in>?

Thankies Depends.

[agrismhig]

So when you stral project and they cannot see you, well dont you create a visual place or virtual where your mind makes up things?
How do i know the difference btw my mind and real life. Who knows my mind can like create a different object or see what i want the person to do.

Im not trying to influence nothing so my vision can be accurate as possible

Oh and the death thing i meant it to be metaforically. I guess i just auto typed all my thoughts that i was thinkin.

Well thanks

[emorbimefed]

So when you stral project and they cannot see you, well dont you create a visual place or virtual where your mind makes up things?

Yes and no. You can consider the astral a matrix that is thought responsive- so as you are creating something with your emotion & expectation, person 'B' is doing the same, and if there is another type of dweller they are also affecting the matrix. So what you experience is a mixture of all. In other words, the 'collective unconscious', with some collective consciousness thrown in for good measure.

How do i know the difference btw my mind and real life. Who knows my mind can like create a different object or see what i want the person to do. That is the hard part, and you can come up with some guidelines: If what you see is connected to your psychology, chances are you, or your Higher Self, or your 'Oversoul' is setting up a situation in which you can work out the problem. How symbolic depends on 'where' you got yourself to. So if you're worried about a family situation, and suddenly have an experience that can be translated as being related to that, there is a good chance that you are creating the situation. But sometimes that can also mean that another aspect of you, is helping to set it up. So it really isn't as clearcut as that.
Im not trying to influence nothing so my vision can be accurate as possible That is why I always say that self awareness is key- so you don't have a vision and think it's a 'message from beyond' and have it turn out it was your subconscious translation of last night's commercial jingle. You'd be surprised at the stuff your subconscious can do.
I think the best advice I can come up with is:
"Know Thyself", and
"Don't take anything too seriously"
And cultivate an observer attitude. Not only in projection, but throughout your whole life.

Well thanks No problem.