[bettingonosports]

In the time that I was having a dry spell, I chanced to read an article someone wrote (I think it was Korpo) in which he described how he liked to hover in Focus 10-12, to explore the feelings and experiences that happen while in that state. I decided to follow suit, because I have usually cultivated the act of 'going' and exploring, and had never given the 'in between' state much of a thought, except for when I stopped having vibrations and other exit sensations, and this opened up other interests for me. Through this period, I decided to study this state and see what I could do with it. You could say that I 'returned to meditation for it's own sake'. Throughout this time I have found that I can identify some of the voices that I hear when in that state, and isolate them. I have also tried to get better at clairvoyance, but with no discernible results-until recently in which I started working on my third eye. The last time I did it I had some fabulous experiences but the next two days I had the worst migraines- so am still working on how to get over this hurdle.
Anyway, I had some interesting effects lately, and this morning I had an awesome experience- You could call it phasing, I'm not sure what I call it.
Woke up fairly early in the morning- decided to go back to bed and try to get in contact with a guide. No dice. I lay there for about 10 minutes and couldn't get into trance.
I then decided to do some energy work, and as soon as I started doing my feet and legs, the chatter started. I could dimly hear, like far away, someone having a conversation. I stopped the sponging, and the voices stopped.
Interesting.
I started again and stopped again, and the phenomenon repeated itself. Voices as I sponged, no voices when I stopped. So I went into a full fledged routine- all tertiary and secondaries, some chakras, and finally the head region. I tried to concentrate on the pineal gland without touching the forehead area, as it's still recovering from the last migraine. I even did a "Yogananda sweep" (I just invented this term, lol) and went into the back of the neck area and connected it with my sponging to the forehead area, but concentrated on the back of the neck more than anything. (In his autobiography he describes the energetic connection from the medula oblongata to the third eye). By the time I was moving to a full-body circuit 'scan', I was in full trance with all kinds of auditory effects, and this is when I heard the familiar voice of this female guide who sounds like an older child or a young girl. At this moment I decided to talk to her.
So I ask her: " Are you my guide?" No answer. For a while, then I hear her voice "I'll meet you in the hallway" and I can see the kitchen closet and me standing in front of it, holding some berries and other things.
I ask her if she is a guide or something, and she answers "I am with you always" (this is in English, by the way). So I ask her what her name is for the second time, and I see myself holding some cinnamon sticks and some other things, and I hear "Berry" and "Polaris Bark" among other words. (Her answers didn't come right after my questions all the time. Sometimes I had to wait and 'stay tuned in' and then an answer that seemed to pertain to the question would come, I'd get all excited, break trance, and then have to go into trance all over again. But it was the best give-and take I've had with anyone while not projected. It was ultra cool. So eventually after this, I passed out and went into a dream.
In the dream, we were in an ashram (I don't know what else to call it, commune could be another word for it) and I was sitting with others (and my hubby and son) listening to some sort of lecture, and then I passed out (in the dream- I tend to sleep inside dream environments more and more, don't know what this means. I wonder if this is a characteristic of phasing?
So when I wake up half of the people in the room are gone, there is a man and a little girl in the floor with me, and my son is in the vicinity playing with other children. I say something about dinner, and he cries as if he were upset that I missed eating dinner with him. Then he's fine, I think he may have been pretending to be upset, so I stumble into a cafeteria/kitchen that is practically out of food- there are three sandwiches left in the table. I ask someone, and they tell me my husband went to the grocery store. This makes me angry for some reason. I pick up the biggest sandwich, (that sort of looks like a hamburger) and set it aside. Then I inspect the other sandwiches and find them wanting. I am very angry that those pathetic sandwiches are all that's left to eat, and am mad at myself for sleeping through dinner. Then my husband walks in the room and remarks that the sandwich I'm holding is a 'frita' (a cuban delicacy that I am very partial to) and I look at it again, and realize it's what I wanted all along, and before I take a bite I start to wake- Then
-click- (Sorry Dr./Mr Buhlman, I had to do it)
I'm laying on my bed (regular bed) and I'm listening to this wonderful music, and the music is wonderful and sublime, and a female angelic voice is singing. And in the screen in front of my eyes shows a blue background, and stars are rotating clockwise, white luminescent stars with sparkles all around them, in a kaleidoscopic pattern, all of them clockwise. The vision screen starts to get away from me and I try to keep it, like a lens focusing and unfocusing, and I force it to stay there just a few more seconds, and then it finally fades, until it's gone, and the music fades at the same time as the music, and...
I open my eyes, still with that sublime feeling that the scene gave me.
Wow!

[CedssypeEdids]

I think we have more than one talented storyteller in this forum who should write a book...

It was interesting to read, even though the experience itself seemed rather confusing.

Oliver

[bettingonosports]

I've thought about it. My adventures growing up in my 'haunted neighborhood' are interesting (but beyond the scope of the forum). The only reason I haven't done it (ok, one of my reasons) is that one of my neighbors that I grew up with is now in politics (she's some muckety-muck Senator or something like that in PR) and might deny anything ever happened. But I've also thought of putting up a blog.

[fedelwfget]

Great post CFT.

I often hear the chattering voices when I meditate, but whenever I focus on them, either the excitement or just the re-engaging of my conscious mind stops them again. Boo!!

I really want to meet my guide(s).

Thanks for sharing this.

Matt

[bettingonosports]

No problem. I haven't tried to communicate any more to the extent of the original post, but at least now when I receive information I can tell who's saying it. So it's a little less confusing.

[iNYZgxNC]

Hello all:

This thing about guides can be very tricky. As long as our subconscious mind is always active, it's difficult so say where the information comes from. By the other side, everyone has a different input chanel. For example, I see all in images, not in sounds, so I wouldn't give much credit to a certain phrase in my mind.

I've commented the following information, and, in the way it could be valuable for you, I'll repeat it again:
Time ago I found a book. It's title was "Inner guide meditation", and, boiled down, it merged astrology, tarot, yoga and meditation, from an energy viewpoint. The book's point was plain and simple: to find your inner guide. From that moment on, you were instructed to use his/her help in your meditations. So to say, the guide is/was a kind of a protector and a teacher in the inner realm.

The system to find him was as straighforward as this: imagine yourself inside a cave. Move straight on, deep inside the cave, till you find a kind of a passage on the left. Once found, pass through it and you'll get to an another landscape (no description given, your mind will do the generation process). In that new stage, turn right, and move straight on again till you find the guide. Scheming the path: straight on, turn left, pass through, turn right, straight on.

Of course it seems easy, but believe me, in the first 30 tries (my record) you'll find a wide collection of freakies trying to mess you. The book's author (Edward Steinbrecher) states that they are our consciousness' defense system, trying to stop us from stepping forward in our evolution (because that would "break down" our consciousness' stability). The best strategy is just to ignore them and to focus in the guide.

Once found, we must ask him: "are you my true guide?". And after a confirmation, we must ask him for his feelings towards us. My guide sent me such amount of energy that my heart chakra ignated. For some sessions it's important to stretch the link in between him and us, and to check, from time to time, his true nature (just in case another thought tries to do phissing).

That's all I can tell you. I've progressed a lot with my guide, and he has taken me to an another stage of my life. But beware of false guides, because they can lead us to ruin.

Bye!

[bettingonosports]

Thanks Andoni. I'll look into the book.
If only I had known that years ago! But I guessed good- I've had all manner of freakies mess with me already. Fortunately, I'm still here and still working towards clarity.

[Elitiachirl]

CFT you said you were hovering in Focus 10-12.

My question is how do you know what focus you are in? Will this come with continuity of trance work, to where you can kninda feel what level you are at?

Another thing is, what is the average time it takes you to induce a trance. If i want to get in one it will take about 30 min, and i usually have trouble with it.
Does this too come in time with practice, making it easier to induce a trance?

Thnaks JS

p.s. sorry to move this thread in a different direction.

[bettingonosports]

CFT you said you were hovering in Focus 10-12.

My question is how do you know what focus you are in? Will this come with continuity of trance work, to where you can kninda feel what level you are at?

I know what level or focus I'm in because of the sheer amount of practice getting to it. I would describe Focus 10 (this may not be the official meaning) as being in trance but not having many hypnagogics, or they going fast. Focus 12 is that point where I know if I let go I'll just go to sleep, and have to make myself 'go back to awake just a little' and sort of dance there until I know I'm in complete and utter trance, but completely awake. And yes, it took a long time to be able to feel the difference between medium and deep trance. A long time.


Another thing is, what is the average time it takes you to induce a trance. About an hour most of the time, sometimes longer. You have to be able to commit the time when you get to a certain point, but don't have to do it every day- just pick a day of the week when you have time to do this. Other times just do energy work and your usual routine.

If i want to get in one it will take about 30 min, and i usually have trouble with it.
Does this too come in time with practice, making it easier to induce a trance? I don't know if practice makes it easier (although that may be the case) it just makes your own mental states recognizable.
Thnaks JS Welcoome.
p.s. sorry to move this thread in a different direction. So far it's good.
Oliver has written much about these states, I believe it's in the Monroe/phasing section.