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Old 02-22-2008, 05:56 PM   #1
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Default How close was I to an OBE?
Hello everyone. I'd like to explaine something that happended to me a couple of days ago.

I wake up early in the morning at about 6am and make myself fully awake. I put on Robert Monroe’s hemi-sync CD, lie on my back in bed and attempt to put myself into a trance.

Some time passes and I briefly fall asleep only to awake. I feel a huge crushing pressure on my face and head like an enormous paving slab is covering the top half of my body. I also feel like I can’t breathe. The fear that I’m going to be sucked out of existence enters my mind and I eventually fall into dream sleep.

How close was I to an OBE? How do I quell the fear? If I just went along with it and went deeper, would I project?
I’d really appreciate some words of comfort and advice. There’s no one in the real world I can talk to about this stuff.

Thanks.
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:28 PM   #2
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Hello everyone. I'd like to explaine something that happended to me a couple of days ago.

I wake up early in the morning at about 6am and make myself fully awake. I put on Robert Monroe’s hemi-sync CD, lie on my back in bed and attempt to put myself into a trance.

Some time passes and I briefly fall asleep only to awake. I feel a huge crushing pressure on my face and head like an enormous paving slab is covering the top half of my body. I also feel like I can’t breathe. The fear that I’m going to be sucked out of existence enters my mind and I eventually fall into dream sleep.

How close was I to an OBE? How do I quell the fear? If I just went along with it and went deeper, would I project?
I’d really appreciate some words of comfort and advice. There’s no one in the real world I can talk to about this stuff.

Thanks.
I believe you had what is known as 'sleep paralysis' and maybe a 'dweller experience'. The crushing sensation was probably due to astral feedback from your own projected double. If you take a look at the AD Pedia the 'dweller effect' is explained there. (There's a link to it in my sig.)
The fear is something that is quite visceral and not due to any 'thinking'. The only way I've been able to fight it is to turn it into anger- an atavistic thing. If you can, move 'into' the fear, instead of 'away from' it. This can help you complete a separation and then get away from your physical body. But if you're stuck in, feel anger, do as deep breathing as you can, and wiggle your big toe. This breaks the paralysis and fully integrates your projecting double and ends the feedback.
I've been there many times, so I can relate.
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:15 PM   #3
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Thanks for that . I felt the vibrations again this morning but they weren’t as strong.

So the “Dweller” is really my projected Astral body waiting for a copy of consciousness to enter it. Can you tell me how long this paralysis/astral feedback lasts? I suppose the quicker I draw closer to the “fear” i.e. my astral body, the quicker I’ll integrate with it. What does consciousness in the Astral body feel like? Is it the same as waking consciousness?
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:04 AM   #4
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Thanks for that . I felt the vibrations again this morning but they weren’t as strong.

So the “Dweller” is really my projected Astral body waiting for a copy of consciousness to enter it. Can you tell me how long this paralysis/astral feedback lasts?
5 minutes, more or less. I suppose the quicker I draw closer to the “fear” i.e. my astral body, the quicker I’ll integrate with it. What does consciousness in the Astral body feel like? Is it the same as waking consciousness? Depends on your energy. But generally, should be like your waking consciousness.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:51 AM   #5
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I have never had a crushing sensation as you discribe (no biggy everyone is different) I have been having a vise like pressure in temples lately, and from asking and posting I am getting input that this could be related to a fear or trepidation of letting myself expand. I cannot imagine what I am fearful of because I want to do OBE badly and I have only had one slightly scary event while OBE. This is not much help to you or answering your question, just felt I would respond...sometimes I will "see" things in peoples responses that make sense even if they feel they are not helping.
I also relate to the "nobody in real world" to relate this too. It is a very touchy thing to discuss with most people. I do have a friend at work that is open enough to at least listen to my belief in OBE and my travels. She does not agree or follow the same path however. Hence, this forum is a Godsend! Keep posting and good luck!!
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:43 AM   #6
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I’ve been spending quite a bit of time on these boards, mostly reading other people’s accounts. You’re right about everyone being different. The human psyche is such a complex web of variables and contradictions that each person’s experiences will differ with the next. The best that can be done is lay down general guidelines and work towards a positive outcome. In my case, achieving a fully conscious OBE.

Thanks for your words of encouragement . I don't know what I'd do without this place.
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