[mr.videomen]

does anyone have a reliable way to trigger projection reflex from trance?

[bettingonosports]

Yes, it's called 'exit technique'.
Seriously, am I not understanding you right?
All exit techniques are supposed to trigger a projection reflex, and this includes energy body loosening. And all projection techniques should be done from trance, unless you're extremely experienced and highly talented.

[mr.videomen]

OK, I need a reliable exit technique thats easy, and always works.

the rope does not work for me. I think my awareness hands are too weak

[bettingonosports]

Please describe your entire projection attempt, so I know what to recommend.

[mr.videomen]

Ok from a full waking state, I put myself into a light trance, exactly the way robert tells you to in astral dynamics.

Then, I do energy raising which will trigger the full trance state in me. So at this point Im stuck in a full trance, not knowing what to do.

The rope doesnt do a darn thing for me. Usually, the only way I can project is wait until the body does it itself
And this is unreliable.


I need a better exit technique.

[Dkavtbek]

Are you sure you're reaching "full trance?"

[CedssypeEdids]

If you actually hit the right trance, the body will already will "looser", kinda drifty, floaty. As if only a slight push is needed. Are you really sure this is the state you find?

This requires relaxation on all levels. It is possible to go to a trance and still be mentally tense. In my experience you get many of the trance symptoms and nothing will happen. You sent your body asleep but the mind is still not relaxed and this will block projection attempts.

If projection seems hard when you try to induce it consciously "by the book", but spontaneously it works, even if unreliably, I'd say the problem is in the state of mind you approach the problem with. A tense mind full of expectations may on the surface seem like investing effort, but in reality it is just inducing strain that prevents projection.

Take good care,
Oliver

[bettingonosports]

I don't see any energy loosening exercises after the trance work. Maybe you should incorporate some in there. Do you know the techniques?

[mr.videomen]

you are right, I do not do the loosening techniques.


Maybe I have to give that a shot.

[mr.videomen]

Are you sure you're reaching "full trance?"

yes

[mr.videomen]

i'm still having the same problem.


This morning when I was still physically relaxed, from full waking state, I tranced to the phase right before vibrations. I got a ringing in my ear, and i was in a pretty deep full trance.

I tried, body loosening, but I was still unable to trigger projection.

All was not lost, however, as I did some core image removal and primary chakra work in the full trance.

[mr.videomen]

To sum up my problem, I need a quicker way to trigger projection, rather than waiting for the body to do it on its own accord, which it will do if i wait long enough.

[CedssypeEdids]

You're expecting changes after not even a week? How's that gonna work?

Reliable application of a skill equals learning a skill and then honing it a lot.

Oliver

[Elitiachirl]

Definetly do some loosening techniques.

But as for the exit try the water ski. Just feel as if u r water skiing and the voat is going so fast its pulling you out of your skin.

JS

[mr.videomen]

the waterski seems to do the trick. I actually got scared that it was working so well, and I aborted.

[Elitiachirl]

yes i have yet to get out with it too. But it definetly puts pressure on the etheric body.

What im going to do is use the water ski and when i got vibrations and there raised, im going to roll out.

Try that.

JS