[BarBoss]

In circle during trance , we have had a spontaneous projection downwards thru the ascension channel past the Earthstone . We seemed to be hurtling downwards while seated . We felt quite safe but surprised . This happened a few times as we entered trance and then we learned to do it at will . I am not sure what the advantage is yet or rather how it is derived . We have been instructed to do this and it has afforded a new dimension to us .

We found ourselves first on another planet . Then we found gateways from there to enter other planets . On each one we met an avatar and had an attunement .

A 4 foot short Tibetan monk appeared in spirit telling us this is the Gateway to the 7 Mountains . He said we stand on the birthplace and that we move to the 7 closest planets of sentient beings . Each realm attained opens another wheel to more .

Here is a bit of our journal ; 27 Aug 07
Surprisingly ,after we opened and entered trance
We sunk like an elevator shaft thru the male kanda
icy cold energy down back as we did
felt like we were going thru the earth energy but cold instead of warm
then water energy and we saw an ocean around us
then hurtled out to space
beyond where we had gone before
the remainder here ;
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/ ... ml#msg5542

[bettingonosports]

I had a projection that was similar to yours this morning. In it I was walking in a beach, I went in the water. Then I went up in the air and ended up in a mountain. I went up the mountain and I went up in the air again, until I reached the sun. I went to the center of the sun and I let myself 'fall' down to earth. I became smaller as I went down and by the time I got to the ground I was smaller than a molecule and I went right through the material earth all the way to the other side (I could 'see' the fire in the center but not feel it. When I went out I had lost momentum and ended up gently coming down to earth again. I liked it so much I think I'm going to use this as a visualization exercise.

[BarBoss]

Thank you for your reply CFT . It is always hugely confirming to find new "discoveries" are being made concurrently globally .

One of the reasons to belong to diverse forums is to feel the global grid and percieve thru reading their posts what others are experiencing .

Because of the contagion of the Universal Mind globally dispersed people may experience the same phenomena metaphysically .

I feel that groups at the same or near vibration move along together experiencing similar dreamstate lesson recall, realms , energy body development ,kundalini events , projection methods, healing methods , etc.

[tgs]

Hi Guys,

Focus 35 maybe?

[bettingonosports]

Hi Guys,

Focus 35 maybe?

Hi dkane. I'm afraid that focus levels awaken the mathphobe in me. I know it's not rational, but beyond focus 12 it's all
'the astral' to me.

[tgs]

CFT- Fair enough

No signs out there- closest direction i use is a number

[BarBoss]

On Cosmology , I think these realms are above Kether in the hands . When we first saw them they began around the arms and then found them around the head . It is as if the arms are the branches of the Tree of Life and these realms are in the canopy . So that would be imho above Robert Monroe's Focus 35.


~Ain Soph Aur
~The Hands above the Crown
~Kether~The Crown
~secret "invisible" and "hidden" realms
~Daath ~The hidden sepiroth
~Top of the Wheel of the pyramids
~Across the abyss to the next wheel of life
~Om Shallah the realm of Living Sound and the Crown of Shallah
13
~The Other side of the Cone of Consciousness
~Operation of Ley Lines of Infinity
~Manifestation Grids
~Tunnels of Eternity
12
~Universal Mind Focus 34-35 is the locale having group consciousness
~Devic Chambers
~Human made spirit homes
~Focus 27: Afterlife free will resembling earth
~Ashrams of other worlds ie Reptilians beyond the trajectory of Ursa Major
11
~Window on Edge of Universe
~Entrance to Hells for Students of the Occult
~Plane of Heavens Focus 24,25,26: Belief Territories of Afterlifers
~Human and Spirit cooperative
~Manifestations of Metaphysical Colleges
~Temples of Wisdom
~Gates of Death
---Pillar of Light of God and Goddess consciousness
~ Focus 23: "stuck" confused unaware ghosts
10
~Plane of Elementals , Devas ,Thrones , the Vortex , Elohim Council
~Human Manifestations ie ashrams of live humans
~Called the Pleaides lies on a trajectory off that star group in Taurus
~Called Sirius lies on a trajectory off this star
~Focus 21: The edge of time/space - contact other energy systems.
9
~ Blue Lodge of what is called the Arcturians of Sirius
~Floating Island Temples
8
~ Group Monadic Soul - Meeting Higher Self
~Temple of Zodiac and Great Clock
~Focus Level 15: State of no time
~ Dragon Temples
http://ca.msnusers.com/AlchemicalFlame/ ... hotoID=295

7
~ Logoic -Shamballah --Temples of Light
~Ashrams of Chohans Great Pyramid
6
~Golden Chamber of Melchiezedek
~Underground Temples
~Atmic Plames
5
~Monadic- work with guides , mahatma , chohans and archangels
~ Astral Hall of Learning – Spiritual King’s Chamber over Luxor
~Focus Level 12: A state of expanded awareness
4
~ Astral Lower
~Focus Level 10: Mind Awake/Body Asleep
~Ethereal
~RTZ
3
~ Physical
~Focus Level 3: increased mental coherency and balance
~Sub Ethereal
2
~Totemic Earth Wisdom
1
~ Lower Plane of Chaos and “Hell on Earth ”
0
~Magick Elemental Realm
00
Abyss

http://www.skepticfiles.org/mys2/ap_01.htm
http://laluni.helloyou.ws/netnews/bk/fire/fire1058.html
http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/amethys ... proj2.html
http://snoedel.punt.nl/?gr=674676#259315
http://www.2012.com.au/dimensions.html
http://www.soulwise.net/25g-awl.htm
http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/thomas ... ciples.htm

[tgs]

Sure does look complicated

And you were concerned about a few numbers CFT

[D6b2v1HA]

I always thought that trance made these things easier. Now if only I could figure it out, or perhpas I'm as close as I really need to be.

[kilibry]

I'm not sure this is the same thing. I dont intentionally have OBE's, they just happen, often after enlightening to something, theyre different because in some of the 'involentary' ones, I get thrown out of my body at rediculous speeds, and Im not even in trance when it happens, only relaxed. This morning I got up too early, I closed my eyes, and I was shot out of my body so fast I couldnt comprehend it, it seriously seemed like light speed, it was rather unbearable. I heard this sound like rope rubbing against something very fast (or rope slipping/burning through someones hands), kind of like a zipline (if youve ever rode on one). I thought about where I should go and my speed slowed down, so did the sound. I looked down at my astral hands and noticed I stopped in someones kitchen. I decided I didnt really have anywhere I wanted to go, soon as I droped the thought I went streaking off again. My body was having trouble breathing and I returned to my bed.

Another time I enlightened to something concerning the essence of creativity and the layers of creation. Every time I tried to go to bed that night I was shot out the top of my head really fast, through the building, and I seemed to hurdle through space.

Really strong sensations of movement, however my physical body seemed to stay put (thank God I dont think even MY head is hard enough to survive going through a building at 7000 mph ).

[bettingonosports]

Sure does look complicated

And you were concerned about a few numbers CFT

Ah yes, but now I know how far I've gone (in between 10 to 11, still no idea what that is in Monroe-ish.)

Aunt Clair, thank you for this. I stickied it as it is a dandy map for future reference.

And Alaskans:

I'm not sure this is the same thing. I dont intentionally have OBE's, they just happen, often after enlightening to something, theyre different because in some of the 'involentary' ones, I get thrown out of my body at rediculous speeds, and Im not even in trance when it happens, only relaxed. This morning I got up too early, I closed my eyes, and I was shot out of my body so fast I couldnt comprehend it, it seriously seemed like light speed, it was rather unbearable.

Showoff.
No really-that used to happen to me all the time but hasn't in a long time. I guess I'm going through some sort of change because I can feel a change in me, don't know exactly what it is.

[kilibry]

Showoff.
No really- that used to happen to me all the time but hasn't in a long time. I guess I'm going through some sort of change because I can feel a change in me, don't know exactly what it is.

I hope I wasnt trying to show off I didnt do it on purpose, so theres nothing to show off. Its probably because I dont use my energy often, so things just spill over, you know? Or its just that I'm kind of new to OBE; it seems like newbies sometimes have powerfull abilities that fade after awhile. All the times I exited volentarily it was slow, actually I crawled once, and I didnt leave the house, so going from that to being hurdled through buildings at mach 900

[bettingonosports]

Originally Posted by CFTraveler Showoff.
No really- that used to happen to me all the time but hasn't in a long time. I guess I'm going through some sort of change because I can feel a change in me, don't know exactly what it is.

I hope I wasnt trying to show off I didnt do it on purpose, so theres nothing to show off. Its probably because I dont use my energy often, so things just spill over, you know? Or its just that I'm kind of new to OBE; it seems like newbies sometimes have powerfull abilities that fade after awhile. All the times I exited volentarily it was slow, actually I crawled once, and I didnt leave the house, so going from that to being hurdled through buildings at mach 900 Don't feel bad, I was just kidding- I find that abilities cycle through life, but usually keep developing.

[yahyynzer]

Does anyone here know if Guru's of Hindu tradtions offer O.B.E. instruction to their devotees. If so what tradition and form of yoga is this most common to. I ask because I intend on becoming a devotee of a Hindu Guru soon but I'm deciding which tradition is for me and what form of yoga to seek out as well.
I am especially fond of Bhakti yoga. My ultimate goal in life is union with God , but I feel that sharing O.B.E.'s with a fully realized being would accomplish many of my life's lesser goals.

From my experience, by Guru, do you mean teacher, like a yoga teacher? If you seek union then find a simple but true Yoga instructor. Big, almost famous type Gurus (like Sai Baba) who preach alot are usually not the best bet in my opinion. If you seek a true instructor, you will find one, or he/she will find you. That being said, any form of yoga will do, see what kind of instructor you find. Then, don't ask your instructor about obe, because the best teacher will not tell you much of anything, only how to properly do yoga. They do this because whilst meditating you will soon find that the answers will come to you. It would do no good to you ultimately to have it explained. It is a process of understanding one's self that can take one week or ten years, but time is not important here. Soon, obe's will become very easy (and much more) if you truly practice yoga, but it takes discipline and you will see that having obe's is only a tip of the iceberg. The slogan, "Just do it" applies here

[bettingonosports]

If I remember correctly, when I read Autobiography of a Yogi, a Guru would cover most areas of a discipline, and OBE is seen more as an effect of the study. I know Yogananda had a few and they were always as a way of his Guru to communicate with him about something he was learning. In other words, the lesson was the important thing, the projection was the means to deliver the teaching.
Another thing I remember reading was that the practice (of Kriya Yoga, in this particular example) was supposed to help awaken whatever natural abilities the student may have, OBE being one of them.
So, in theory, maybe.