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Old 12-27-2007, 02:22 PM   #1
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Default Astral Surgeon makes a suggestion
Okay. It is probably WAY too soon to mention this. I got this information, I just can't use it yet. On one of their last visits, they told me that I could cooperate with them to heal people. They told me all I have to do is get into the trance state I go into when they come to me, and then grab onto the person to be healed. I would be like a middle-man. They said this was entirely possible. They suggested that I could do this. If I want.

First of all, I'm not that good at summonsing them. I don't think I could do it just "at will" or "on a whim." I have never had an interest in energy healing. Never taken a class in reiki. I wouldn't even know where to begin. I would feel very awkward about trying it out on someone. What am I supposed to do? Wait until a friend of mine comes down ill and say, "Oh, let me try something, let me see if I can call my Caduceus looking astral surgeon and his camera bird assistant who will record the entire procedure."

However- this is the first time, ever, that an astral entity has suggested an actual JOB to me. I've been seeing these things for over ten years, and up until now none of them ever gave me any direction. It's up to me, they said.
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:42 PM   #2
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Well, first of all, you wouldn't have to manhandle anyone, necessarily. You might be able to do it with just a gentle touch, like a touch of the hand or something (I'm not saying I know, only that this seems possible to me). Eventually, you might be able to do a sort of semi-trance or split your consciousness (I do that all the time; it's a fairly simple form of dissociation), and in one part of yourself, have the astral guides while in the other part, you're present. It'd be cool to be able to just reach out and sort of comfort someone in a socially appropriate way and channel energy while you do it.

That being said, I'd be willing to bet that if you agreed to it, they'd make sure you had appropriate opportunities to practice.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:39 PM   #3
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So wait there is astral surgeons?
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Old 12-28-2007, 04:34 AM   #4
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So wait there is astral surgeons?
The astral world is so big that there are all sorts of things we have never seen before. Many, many spirits and thoughtforms.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:40 AM   #5
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♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ : Eventually, you might be able to do a sort of semi-trance or split your consciousness (I do that all the time; it's a fairly simple form of dissociation Oh man, I've only had that happen once and it was a huge deal for me. Not a simple thing to pull off at all. It was like being in two places at once.

JoSac - Astral doctors are actually one of the most common things people see.
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Old 12-28-2007, 11:38 AM   #6
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Leyla, when you say that you mean in the artral plane right?

And what are they? Like spiritual healers? And do they heal in the physical world?

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Old 12-29-2007, 07:51 AM   #7
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Leyla, when you say that you mean in the artral plane right?

And what are they? Like spiritual healers? And do they heal in the physical world?

JS
Yes, they are in the astral. You might want to get a few books on the topic. Like Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce, or Supernatural by Graham Hancock. There are many other classics. Just make sure it's from a reputable, scholarly source, there's a lot of nut jobs out there.

These being are like a sort of Astral EMS, and shamans have been seeing them since times of the caves. Medicine and healing used to be considered a form of magic.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:43 AM   #8
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Ya im reading Astral dynamics right now but i havent read on surgeons yet.

I know u said u have trouble summoning them but how do you go about it?

Thanks JS.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:47 PM   #9
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♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ : Eventually, you might be able to do a sort of semi-trance or split your consciousness (I do that all the time; it's a fairly simple form of dissociation
Oh man, I've only had that happen once and it was a huge deal for me. Not a simple thing to pull off at all. It was like being in two places at once. Really? Hmmm. Maybe it's just me who finds it reasonably easy to do. I used to have chronic dissociation (as in, Dissociation Disorder Not Otherwise Specified), so to me it seems completely normal. It's just like flipping between tabs in Windows for me.

I guess it could be disconcerting, though. I honestly never thought about how more "normal" egos are structured.
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:27 AM   #10
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Hello,

One the very rare ocassions I have been able to assist Healer Beings in the other side my experience has been that they only ask to locate the person requesting help. I can remember one time a person in the old Voyagers Email List asked for help. That night I was taken OOB and asked to take the Healers (a chinese doc) to the person asking for help. I only knew this person by email, yet I felt that by just thinking of the person I could move to them, and this worked. To my amazement, I witness a surgical procedure done in the non-physical brain. It involved opening the astral/etheric layers in the brain and exposing some other energetic structures that resembled spheres attached by energy strings to the brain. Some spheres were improperly connected and they worked on re-connecting them. The person in the real world had some brain development condition since childbirth. I do not know of the effect in real life of the astral/etheric operation. My guess is that it would take many more of these procedures to heal the problem. It seems that they were teaching me what to do and taking them to the subjects and watching was my first lesson.

Just notice that I did not summon them, I only had a desire to be of help and support and that is what attracted them. I suggest you do the same. Also, it would be advisable to talk with them for a while and findout their intentions. Build the relationship with them. Have a feel for them and if that feeling is of Love and Light then give it a try.

As with any other healing modality, just know that you are a channel for the help. It is up to the person receiving the energy changes to accept or reject them. Most likely, such energy changes, if not followed by changes in attitudes will reverse themselves in time. This might be an indication that a lesson needs to be learned, it is karmic in nature and the dis-ease/situation is serving its awareness function.

Love and Light
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Old 01-15-2008, 01:09 PM   #11
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Jorge,

I am very excited to hear from someone who has actually done this.

I noticed that you went to them, and then lead them to the person. But I imagine it could have worked just as well if you had lead them directly to the person. I don't see why it would be wrong/immoral to call them to the person who needs their help. Especially since this is the way they showed me to do it, specifically.

Why were you not able to talk to the person and ask them if they had noticed any changes? I would bet there would be immediate noticeable improvement, if not total healing.
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:14 AM   #12
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The method I was taugh was that if I want to contact a Healer Spirit I get myself in tune with those Healer Energies by setting my intention to helping others, feeling compasion, etc. Of course, wIth time the bonding builds up and just thinking on them would bring their presences even when not OOB. Perhaps that is your case and that would be a blessing and highly encouragable.

In my experience I could not contact again the person to receive a feedback from the operation. I have always wondered what happened in real life. I have heard that effects of such energy manipulations are not immediate in the physical and that sometimes it takes time for them to project fully into the physical body.

Love and Light,

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