[Enjoymmsq]

I have been reading these threads for a few weeks now and I am concerned about people mentioning negative things may be able to get at you whilst you are out of your body.

For instance, if you project and see something nasty, should you wake yourself up, fight it off, imagine light, pray, what?

[bunkalapa]

Turquois,

Any thought form you create while astral becomes instantly real. If you can remember to, you can manifest a light sabre, laser eyes, energy web to capture your opponent, etc. Should you take this route, please remember that sometimes it's better to manifest a cage around the entity and question it thoroughly before you decide to use violence. If you get into the habit of using violence, you may end up killing your own dream characters in your own Self-created dreams, thereby losing the opportunity to learn what they exist to teach you. You must realize that if you can project with awareness, you become part of the top 1% on the power scale of astral entities. Don't fear run of the mill negs, you might as well fear mosquitos.

However, it is still a good idea to "open in protection" as Aunt Claire advises, in which you call your higher guides/ascended masters/higher self to protect you prior to the voyage. There is really nothing more powerful than this, in my honest opinion.

Curiosity and the bravery to seek will provide more answers. You should consider procuring "Astral Dynamics", the book, by Robert Bruce if you want plenty of ideas.

[Enjoymmsq]

Thanks. I am going to get that book as soon as I have the money, I really want to read it.

[Dkavtbek]

Also remember that OBEs share many qualities with dreams... And it's not only the good things, it's possible to have "nightmare OBEs" where you are fully conscious in your house but fears that you are not aware of surface and cause bad things to happen -- insects, "demons," ghosts...

When I started out, I had a lot of nightmarish experiences that felt very real... Fighting in a physical manner will help you gain confidence, but it's much better to altogether eliminate the fear at the source than have to spend precious OBE time fighting your self-created demons. Learn to be able to stay there in front of whatever is scaring you, and show it that you are not afraid.

It's very hard to do at first... Especially because it's easy to get caught up in the moment and forget that you are actually not in the physical, and therefore that whatever you are seeing cannot bite you, hit you, or otherwise harm you.

Stay there for a few seconds, and don't back down. Say out loud that you reject its presence, if you must, and try as hard as you can not to fight back if it attacks you. Try to imagine your skin as being made of steel, and so the attacker cannot even scratch it... Or imagine that you are completely transparent and that it can't touch you at all.

Be wise and walk away instead of playing its game, and soon enough it won't find you so interesting anymore.

[DuePew]

And remember no matter what anybody says, you don't leave your body empty or defenseless- some of the time your awareness goes with your projected double but 'you' are still in your body, and sometimes your awareness splits between the body and the out/state. A lot of fear is based on this, and please know that it isn't so.