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Old 11-06-2007, 10:02 PM   #21
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I wonder if a large impact event where many souls pass at the same time or a large amount of emotion is released at the same time, can this influence someone's psyche enough to cause a projection?
I know of a case where a lady was raped and it caused a spontaneous projection. She viewed the experience from the top corner of the room. And when it was over she was slammed back into her body.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:11 PM   #22
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Well, I was thinking more of an external phenomenon, like an abrupt change in the collective unconscious causing some sort of 'tidal phenomenon' and sort of 'catching you' with it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:29 AM   #23
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Mishell - I was in my late 20s the first time I remember anything like an OBE. Same here, I was 19. I tried meditating for the first time and got an extremely eerie feeling I was being watched.

It was later that night my guides pulled me out of body.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:02 AM   #24
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Ryan, the first I knew of 9/11 was an overwhelming dream encounter with hundreds of ghosts clamoring to tell me about their pain and sorrow. I couldn't take it past a certain point and woke up absolutely devastated to discover what had happened on my television.
Are you saying the spirits' of the 9/11 victims came to your dream shortly after they died in the buildings?

Anyway, it does seem to be a bit too coincidental that I would astral project sometimes around 9/11. Maybe a lot of people's spirits' traveled around because of what was happening on earth at the time.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:20 AM   #25
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I wasn't going to bring this up, because it was not a happy time in my life, but since everyone keeps talking about it...

I had a lot of trouble in the months leading up to 9/11. Severe panic attacks where I would just lay on the floor and think "death, death, death." It felt like I was being pulled into a black hole. All I could see were people being crushed. I thought someone close to me was about to die. My friends were nervous it might be them. I nearly became agoraphobic where I couldn't go too far from home, was scared of new places. I felt my world closing in around me. Soon, I knew I would be one of those people too scared to leave their own home. Thank god for the Attacking Anxiety program. It fixed me.

After that, I had a very disturbing lucid dream about 9/11. I could see the victims boarding the planes. As their physical bodies were walking onto the ramp, their souls were turning around almost backwards in their bodies and waving goodbye. Because they knew they were going to die. Not only that, but the crash victims were proud. This was a big honor, to be one of the ones chosen to die. They had competed for the privilege. And boarding that plane to their deaths was their souls equivalent of having a metal pinned to their chest. So - it's like the terrorists got it backward. It's not those who crashed the plane who became saints, but their victims.

This dream was not a pleasant one. I was absolutely horrified to see those people willingly marching to their deaths. It's like they were sacrificing themselves.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:24 AM   #26
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I believe that everytime there is a major catastrophe like 9/11 it is a soul agreement between the ones that perpetrate the crime and those who are the victims.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:48 AM   #27
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I projected for years between ages 8-17... never knew what was happening... Energy Body Sensations/Vibrations and (of course) that damn little 'presence' that was there... ALWAYS THERE... Freaked me out for many years... I realize NOW that it was ME who is the damn little 'presence'... but it still kinda freaks me out sometimes... 1st actual conscience exit projection was age 17...
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:55 AM   #28
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Ryan Paris asked:
Are you saying the spirits' of the 9/11 victims came to your dream shortly after they died in the buildings? From my journal:

I was surrounded by ghosts. They were overwhelming me with their sadness and their demands. I couldn't help them. It was a grey dream, smoky.

I got up around 5am because I couldn't stand it. I switched on the TV and there was footage of planes crashing into towers. I thought I was still dreaming but G soon joined me and I realised it was real. It was September 11, 2001. The dream happened as the people were dying or just afterwards, I guess. I don't know if they came to me or I went to them or if we met somewhere in the middle. I didn't really know a lot about projection back then.

It always makes me wonder why this impacted me when other major disasters haven't registered.
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