[blackjackblax]

I had a rather strange projection the other night, in it I was in this place that had a shiny floor and blackness everywhere (in itsself odd to me), when suddenly I was grabbed from behind, it was rather uncomfortable as it wouldn't let me move, I could grab onto its arms and struggle but my hand would phase through its when I tried to pull them away.
so I brought myself back to my bed but didn't leave the meditative state (I can normally do this this 2 or 3 times before I loose it), but when I tried to project again there was something standing on my chest, not on my physical, it was only when I tried to move.

any ideas?

Thanks in Advance.

[Apparpsmose]

Littlehand, have you done any shielding?

Lots of different people have experimented with different tactics for this kind of thing. Some manifest an astral sword or similar such weapon, others attempt communication with their astral assailant and some even try the love, light and hugs method.

It's possible that your astral nuisance is a projection you've created or a "neg" of independent origin or something else and you've misinterpreted its actions and intent.

[blackjackblax]

Jeez, I really do hope its self created, I'd hate to think I'm after annoying someone or broken some rule while projecting, hmm, I once charged a cat on my road and it ran like the devil (purely as an experiment), you think maybe that could be it? (I'm seriously not joking)

Thankies for the answer Beehive

[DuePew]

For whatever this is worth, some projectors have had similar experiences to yours and they stopped when they left the area in where this happened. Robert Monroe had a similar experience to this and found out after various attempts to extricate himself from this 'stranger', and eventually realized that his 'stranger' was himself- some sort of half-projection. I have had similar experiences to yours and found myself released as soon as I came back (but with after-effects, he was there after my waking and I saw him dissappear) but was never bothered again. I think it was an astral occupant of wherever I went, so the next time I went there I just avoided 'him'. No consequences, I just try to be careful.
If it makes you feel 'icky' I suggest a salt bath or shower, and like BeeK said, shield before you go. I guess that's what happens when we go somewhere for the first time- we don't know what to expect.

[blackjackblax]

Though heres the strange thing, I was born with a missing Right hand (hence littlehand ), but the "entity" (for now I'll call it that) has two, and my Astral body does also only have one. wouldn't it make more sense if it had one hand? since the part of my brain that would control my right hand would never have developed. also sometimes its a dog, or two dogs, or one one occasion a large black panther.

I guess I should start practicing creating things in my hand.

Maybe I'm just messed up in the head

[bunkalapa]

CFT,

You beat me to mentioning Monroe! I commend you for that as littlehand's experience made me think the exact same thing.

Don't be embarrassed, littlehand, look around and see how many times Robert Bruce has said something like "We don't know that much about (insert topic here) yet...but,"

So, Robert, compared to me, does know a lot, but that's why I don't compare myself to him! Hi Robert! The point is that few if any of us have ever seen a rulebook for these things. You shouldn't compare yourself to others, especially those here who understand that things are as they should be with each one of us and our circumstances, for the most part. So, don't be too self critical. I think you're doing great, personally!

[TessUnsonia]

I had a rather strange projection the other night, in it I was in this place that had a shiny floor and blackness everywhere (in itsself odd to me), when suddenly I was grabbed from behind, it was rather uncomfortable as it wouldn't let me move, I could grab onto its arms and struggle but my hand would phase through its when I tried to pull them away.
so I brought myself back to my bed but didn't leave the meditative state (I can normally do this this 2 or 3 times before I loose it), but when I tried to project again there was something standing on my chest, not on my physical, it was only when I tried to move.

Just a thought that you may want to think back over the experiences for details. For example, when grabbed from behind, do you think the thing was your size? Smaller? Larger? Was it broader than you? Was it like a pair of hands that grabbed you or more like a bear hug holding you?
The 'something' standing on your chest - was it human? 4 legs or 2? Heavy or just a presence?

You could try, while thinking over the experiences, re-writing the actions so that you do things other than what occurred. Then if it happens again, you will have a new pattern to run. eg. When the thing grabs you from behind, charge up your shield & use it to push the thing away so you can move. Or perhaps, flip forward in a somersault to fling it over your head & break the hold.
Not knowing the exact situation it isn't easy to work out what would work best for you, but think it through, then re-run the experience in memory with the new actions in it. Do it a few times & if the situation comes again, you will have an auto-response waiting to use.

[blackjackblax]

Originally Posted by Littlehand I had a rather strange projection the other night, in it I was in this place that had a shiny floor and blackness everywhere (in itsself odd to me), when suddenly I was grabbed from behind, it was rather uncomfortable as it wouldn't let me move, I could grab onto its arms and struggle but my hand would phase through its when I tried to pull them away.
so I brought myself back to my bed but didn't leave the meditative state (I can normally do this this 2 or 3 times before I loose it), but when I tried to project again there was something standing on my chest, not on my physical, it was only when I tried to move.

Just a thought that you may want to think back over the experiences for details. For example, when grabbed from behind, do you think the thing was your size? Smaller? Larger? Was it broader than you? Was it like a pair of hands that grabbed you or more like a bear hug holding you?
The 'something' standing on your chest - was it human? 4 legs or 2? Heavy or just a presence? The legs on my chest felt human, but they where invisible, I think I could open my actual eyes, though its debatable, but it definitely felt like mans legs, slightly hairy to the touch, and wearing socks...crazy :/

[DuePew]

crazy :/ You should read some of my posts! Ha ha!

[blackjackblax]

crazy :/

You should read some of my posts! Ha ha! Oh I have, I just wish I could articulate my experiences like that