[Rufio]

SNOWFLAKE SHAPE ----------------------- NORMAL SHAPE

When I opened by eyes the thing had formed it's legs into this snowflake pattern on the left, and was spinning around clockwise!

It looked for all the world like a spinning black snowflake.

At first I didn't even recognize what it was. I got a good look at it for several seconds before it resumed it's normal shape and crawled away.

Turns out these things do have EIGHT LEGS after all.

I banish them whenever I see one. I have been able to confirm they are responsible for causing nightmares.

[patrycjakolekk]

I don't understand.

Astral Spiders? Do you have a fear of spiders, which causes you to thoughtform them subconciously?

[XKAgustin]

Leyla, what associations might you make with the shapes? Maybe you perceive them metaphorically and knowing what they represent to you will lead to some deeper awareness of why they continue to manifest.

[Rufio]

I have never had a fear of spiders in my life.

In fact, I have always been fond of them. It was for this reason that I was so reluctant to believe that these were harmful.

If you do a search for "Astral Spiders " on this board you'll pull up dozens of links. They are one of the most common forms of astral wild life.

Sorry folks, but not all spiders are friendly.

They look like that, because that is what they look like. I have been training my astral eyes. Like in this post: http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewto ... highlight=

When I caught it in it's little snowflake preying-mantis, martial-arts style pose it was actually in the act of manipulating my dream.

I grabbed for it, not realizing what it was, and it starting kicking it's little legs to get away. Thats when I was able to see it was one of my spiders. (These things have been after me for months now.)

I feel pretty accomplished that I actually got to witness one in action.

Now if I could just figure out where they're coming from...

[Smittoh]

Now if I could just figure out where they're coming from...

Do you think they have a source? That they are not just entities but sent?

Take good care,
Oliver

[ExelePlavisseu]

I've moved this topic to 'Astral awareness', and depending on what direction this discussion takes, it may get moved to 'Psychic Self-Defense'.

[Rufio]

New information on my spiders - they are adrenaline junkies.

When I have opened my eyes to spot them, it has always been at the scariest part of the dream when my heart is really pounding and I can hear my blood beating in my ears.

They have figured out what else has a adrenaline raising/heart pounding effect. These things are getting clever.

Last night I had a sexy-type dream of my favorite rock guitarist. As the excitement grew I open my eyes and boom- spider. I raised my hand to kill it ...but then ... damn it. I didn't want to.

I know these things are feeding off me but ... I really liked the dream. It was just such a good, perfect dream.

Now I'm not sure what to do.

[Rufio]

LOL. Not unless I just saw your show on the Projekt Revolution tour.

Did I? j/k

[patrycjakolekk]

No... You may have seen me on the "Death to the masses" tour with Downlord last summer.

>< Darn. Its my dream to be someone's favorite guitarist. The possiblity of a fan fantasizing about me was exhillerating.

[Rufio]

awww...you'll get there one day sweetie!

[evarekataVame]

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