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eyeoneblack wrote:
Sometimes I think we get to talking about phenomema as if it were a game of one-up-manship. Like "Wow" that; and me, "Wow" this, and it seems to get a little out of hand. It's like an exercise of language rather than actual experience.
Don't get me wrong, I encourage the free and willful imagination (the imagination is where the action is) but at a point, one has to wonder if the poster isn't just prevaricating. Actually I was worried that it might come out like that, but I assure I could care less about "one-upping" any one. Whats the possible gain in that?
I sat there for like ten minutes before I hit the "submit" button. I was worried about any reactions people might have, and worried about sharing something so personal.
And, I wouldn't have posted it at all if there wasn't a few people here that see those confounded tiny particles dancing around everything and everywhere.
Great , now I have turned a personal mystery into a social meandering.
Bah, maybe next time I'll keep it to myself.


Yet sometimes we experience things that, knowing regular society would deem insane or ficticious, we hesitate to talk about, so we file it as 'weird' and try to ignore it or think aboutit later. Then, when we find a place like this, where people talk about the things that they experience, we recognize the similarities to those that happened to us, so we want to add our account, sometimes in sheer joy of not being the only one who experiences it, and other times because we want others to know that they're not the only ones who experience this. Exactly CF, You really picked out the underlying issue there, thanks.

[DailyRingtone]

Yea, that post bothered me in the middle of the night. Must have been in a grumpy mood. Like CF said, Where else, but here?

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[michael247]

Was just reading an OBE article that also mentions these lights. In it, the author states that Psychologists refer to these as "ideoretinal lights". They can also be referred to as eighenlicht or entopic lights.
Don't know if this is the same phenomenon, but perhaps a Google or two will help you find out.
Cheers!

[hs6KnlcW]

As pointed out earlier, I had associated it with myopia but then after lasik surgery, realised there had to be something else going on. A number of posters have referred to short-term or occasional events, but it's 24/7 & only distractions take them out of conscious notice.

Energy is something I've considered for quite some time but I can't find a way to make use of it... Most annoying if that's what it is.

[Junrlaeh]

I feel weird sometimes when things just go across my eyes. Like the last fews day the energy has been really lighting up my head with energy when these images kinda pass through them and it's just weird. Because it's like I'm seeing with both eyes at the same time... Can you tell what excalt eye I'm using?

[Averti$ingGuru]

I feel weird sometimes when things just go across my eyes. Like the last fews day the energy has been really lighting up my head with energy when these images kinda pass through them and it's just weird. Because it's like I'm seeing with both eyes at the same time... Can you tell what excalt eye I'm using?

The third eye in the centre of the forehead begins to effect the entire brow centre which extends like a thick narrow holed donut around the spine between the blue chakra and the violet one . The adjacent areas open up to become clairsentient too.

Typically, the third eye opens first . Then a pair of eyes which are multifaceted open on either side of the third eye, above the physical eyes . These have been called eyes of the cobra or dragon eyes . Then reciprocal energy centres will develop below these dragon eyes but these have not opened fully for me yet . Soon tiny energy centres will make a sphere around the bridge of the nose .

The space between any two active chakras forms a kanda which becomes a chakra over time . The space between any two active energy centres manifests a new energy center in time . In this manner , cluster after cluster manifests or becomes imbibed with light until the entire forehead is opened as one large eye with one large third eye size centre behind the head directly behind the original third eye .

Then a ring of energy centres will form around the equator of the indigo brow chakra . The third eye remains strongest and continues to develop on its own accord moving to allow 360 degree sight in some cases .

I found this image online which typifies the external energy centres which surround the brow centre in time , except that the third eye is not equal in size to its surrounding centres .Also the third eye is embedded like the jewel on this ring not just another bead .




I cannot recall which site I downloaded this image from though , sorry .

[jeargefef]

The artistic style of the picture on the right reminds me of something Alex Grey would do.

[immewaycypef]

What the OP described is exactly what I've been seeing since I can remember, I often thought it was the "bugs" on my eyes or "atoms" I was seeing but then as I grew older I just assumed it was part of my vision system and not anything of particular interest.


-Astral_Ace

[satthackacibe]

I was the same - I got interested again when I had Lasik eye surgery & realised it wasn't to do with being shortsighted. Then through lack of info the interest faded again until I started thinking seriously about the astral & somebody wrote about seeing energy. It opened a new perspective on what I was seeing, because it IS like I'm seeing the energy field of literally everything.

If string theory 7 quantum theory have a close correspondence to reality, then it is likely there is an Ether, in spite of Einstein; if that is so, then maybe we see the ether?

But in all this, I guess what is most frustrating is not having any way to actually use what I'm seeing. Most annoying & another subject to smack my higher self with if he ever deigns to show up...

[Cengaeas]

Here's an interesting documentary on Castaneda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg6baC0rPO8

[Binuilienzync]

I read only the first few posts...

JMan, I get the sparks you speak of too, eyes open or closed (mine are mostly white/silver, although sometimes they do look like a tiny pixel of a snowy TV screen). I also get the swirly dots when looking at the sky, but I think those are different than the sparks.

After a year of pondering these damn things and careful observation, it seems to be some sort of indicator of when a thought connection is made between myself and someone else. I noticed that most often, after stuff I have written or said to someone repeats through my head, I get a little light show.

I have experimented with this with my pms to a good friend, and every time he has read what I have written and the text is repeated in my mind, I get the sparks (white/silver, always midrange left side). They do not happen BEFORE he has read it, only after. This also happens when I go over previous IM conversations he and I have had. I strongly feel it is some sort of indication of a connection taking place.

Another friend, Rayson, shows up as a large, light blue sparkle on my left side, lol. When he is connecting with me (or an aspect of him, maybe his HS), I see these larger blue sparks. I also get these with the other friend when he is intentionally connecting with me.

I would suggest to pay attention to your other senses when these sparks happen. Is a passing thought running through your mind about a post you made on the forum or a previous conversation you have had with someone? I noticed the sparks happen A LOT after several people have read something I have written. Weird...

Funny thing - when I feel a presence about and hear a negative comment in my mind, instead of a white/silver spark, I'll sometimes see a black spark - time to bust out with the countermeasures in those cases.

When I shift my eyes, they remain stationary. When I go to bed at night and thoughts are drifting into my mind at a fast pace, they can look like little miniature fireworks.

The best thing I can suggest is to pay attention to your other senses, thoughts, feelings when these sparks appear and then try to see if there is some sort of pattern to these sparks. It might be different for you, I dunno.

[Rexaviennatutr]

Just noted your frustration about not being able to 'use' this phenomenon for any practical purpose. For me, I use it to know when my friend has received my pm, lol. Works like a charm 99.9% of the time.

[satthackacibe]

Thanks for the responses folks.

faerylight, some of what you describe sounds like what I see but when you describe seeing something different as a connections symptom, that isn't what happens with me. I ahve been wondering & trying to find a way to test these sparks for as long as I can remember. I was about 14 when I realised not everyone had the gazillions of tiny sparkles in their vision. As stated earlier, I thought initially it was a product of shortsightedness, but laser surgery gave me excellent vision & I still have the sparkles.

There are no sides with mine - they are simply there, right across my vision, constantly, eyes open or shut, bright lights or dim. They are so ubiquitous that I think any change would be instantly noticed.

Also present are the after images everyone gets, faint lines & occasional pulses that correlate to blood vessel activity, occasional sudden & brief single tiny glows at infrequent intervals (can be days between them) & one other mystery - a kind of electric-blue circle that starts large & faint & shrinks towards the centre of my vision, getting denser & brighter as it does. Before it reaches centre, another is on its way. At times this is very noticeable & sometimes I can concentrate to see it & sometimes I can't see it happening at all.

[Rexaviennatutr]

That's crazy man. Good luck with figuring it out.

[hs6KnlcW]

Now that's interesting. I used to sit on the tram or train going to work in the morning & close my eyes as a meditation thing to calm me for the working day - during that time I would usually try to 'play' with the sparkles. Mostly without much success.

Occasionally when I tried to out-focus (look a long way away into the depths of the sparkles, like looking deep into the sky on a clear night in the country) I would perceive depth & also an almost imaginary 'glow' where the other people in the tram or carriage were. Trying to focus on those glows was unsuccessful.

I've also tried blocking my vision to black, then moving my hand or fingers in front of my 3rd eye location & there is a presence - I can't even call it a glow, but it's like a shadow moving across a dark screen.

I'll try the sound & candle stuff & see how I go. Thanks...

[TpDoctorOneTp]

I've been seeing little- moving sparks for a long time. I have seen them while looking at my window, after a physically strenous time (such as for example coughing hard)...

I also seem to see "static", like on a TV screen, a lot. Little white dots that look most like static on a TV.

I've thought I was seeing atoms or something when I see the moving dots. They seem to be nothing but black-and-white trails and then they disappear. But atoms are not that big.

I cannot explain the static or the astral static I get (one of my other threads details this); it is most like static on a TV. Including the astral "sound".

I cannot explain these things nor why I see them. It doesn't seem to be hallucinatory; perhaps because the nerves and blood vessels behind my eyes are misshapen, but that's normal for my age, or so I have been told.

I still have very few answers, but I know now a lot of other people experience the same thing, so I'm not crazy.

[satthackacibe]

Nope, you're not crazy... or we both are... *grins*

[TpDoctorOneTp]

I'm crazy, just harmless.

[Rexaviennatutr]

Ooook then.... Last night, had some weird sight stuff going on.

I saw a field of what looked like snowy TV, not just one spark, but a field of them. These did not pop in and out of existance like the sparks I described previously, they stayed there. Another difference, they were not perfect little dots, some were elongated and stringish looking. Imposed on this field of distorted, green glowing, snowy static stuff was a very large, less bright, green glowy, fluid like shape, that would collapse in on itself. Starting at the perimeter of my field of vision, then collapsing into itself in the center in a wave like kind of motion. This larger, softer fluid shape would change shapes as I was observing it. It was more subtle and transparant and I could see the field of static through it.

Odd. My eyes were wide open, I was laying in a darkened room as I was trying to go to sleep. This lasted for a few minutes, then subsided completely. I have to say, it felt very strongly third eye related. I had been having some headaches in that area yesterday and right before it my eyebrows had been twitching A LOT.

Thought I would share. When it was happening I thought - I think this is closer to what JMan is experiencing.