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Old 02-22-2007, 01:45 PM   #1
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This has got to be a first for me folks. Totally unexpected.

I was trying the vision screen technique again. Meditating, looking into the darkness of my closed eyelids. Still not seeing anything. And then - boom- a pair of eyes.

It's my great grandmother who died when I was nine. She knows I've hired a genealogist to research my ancestry (as a follow up to my ancestral DNA test) and she's upset I didn't research HER branch of the family tree!

(I already know where her branch comes from. The bowels of hell.)

She knows I've been trying to track down the source of this "gift" (if you can call it that) and seemed offended I didn't even consider her, or her side of the family. "Why don't you think you got it from me" she wants to know?

Well, a few reasons

1) I don't have her X chromosome. She's my mothers fathers mother. Not my mothers mothers mother.

2) My mitochondrial DNA (My mothers, mothers, mother ) comes out of Northern China. They had a cast system of eight banners, one of them was the shaman/priestess cast. If you developed mystical ability, they would re-assign you to that cast. So, for a few hundred years the Manchu actually bred a race of psychic astral-projectors. On purpose.

3) And I guess the most obvious would be that my mothers fathers mother never spoke about leaving her body, while my mothers mother (from North China) does it all the frigging time.

Besides that, she is also a psychic, she predicted my birthday, my birthmark, and told everyone I would be just like her. So obviously, she is where I get it from. She said so herself. Before I was BORN. Nobody from the other side of the family knew I was coming.

I am just so irritated that the other great grandmother dared to show up. And here she's trying to take credit. Ha! I credit her side of the family with plenty of things, all of them bad.

That, and she wanted to deny a family rumor about her. She says it's not true and that she didn't do it. I don't even know if I can believe her.

Does anybody know if the dead lie? Can somebody get John Edward on the phone on this one?
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:37 PM   #2
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Well, sure, there can be genetic predispositions, but why would DNA be the only thing? Maybe that side of your family plays a much bigger part than you think!
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:35 AM   #3
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Does anybody know if the dead lie? Absolutely. You take most of your personality with you into the afterlife. Depending on your evolvement, you can be so stuck with your own karma that you even take it all back with you in the next life. The more evolved, or aware, a person is at physical death, the faster they begin dropping personality traits and reintegrating with the peaceful atmosphere of the higher realms. Someone stuck in their own bad karma is going to continue with the illusion, and continue creating whatever personality faults they had in physical life...i.e. lying, cheating, stealing, etc.

In Monroe's focus levels, this would probably be either Focus 23 - died unaware and trapped in the physical plane as a ghost, or in Focuses 24, 25, or 26 - the Belief System Territories. This is where a person would go who is trapped in their beliefs (religions, philosophies, etc.) and can't move past them. A disincarnate body has the capability of communicating (to some degree or other) with humans from any of the Focuses. Much of it depends on how much they believe they can.

Can somebody get John Edward on the phone on this one? Sorry, can't help you there.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:03 AM   #4
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Kiwibonga -

I don't think DNA is the only thing. We can crop up anywhere. But the Manchu deliberately bred people for Shamanism. They had very strict rules against intermarriage.

Check out this fascinating story of Nishan Shamaness. She's the Chinese Aradia. You have to scroll down a bit to get to the story. http://www.buryatmongol.com/nishan.html

The caucasian side of my family was interested in folk magick. I know they did "faith healing," dream-interpretation and such. But so did all country people back then. I don't count that as a big deal.

Tempestinateapot -

Thanks for your input.
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Old 02-24-2007, 04:52 AM   #5
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I'm still not sure of the pair of eyes I saw were my great-grandmothers or my own "inner eyes." But I've had it happen before. When I was looking into a dish of water trying to scry. After about a half an hour of staring an eye opened up and looked back at me. I screamed.

After that I lost it and wasn't able to do it again. Then I read that you don't need a dish or mirror at all, just close your eyes.
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Old 02-24-2007, 05:18 AM   #6
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Awesome.
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:06 AM   #7
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*edited* Felt it was too much information and someone might be able to identify me or family members.
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