[libertiespana]

I was reading Astral Dynamics and found Waking Paralysis confusing, I often have what what I had thought before to be a reoccurring dream. I would seem to be awake while my body was sleeping I am assuming this usually happened in the early morning before sunrise from around 3-5 am. It would be as described where i would not be able to move my body when I tried, and I would want to wake up, it usually caused me to panic in some way i would try my hardest to lift my limbs, and scream at the top of my lungs, either just shrieking hoping maybe i would make a sound in my sleep someone would hear, or yelling for my mother or something else of the sort. After a while i would finally be able get up and start my day, however things were hazy and slow, and sometimes very dark and intimidating. Sometimes however it would be just like waking up any other normal day, and starting my daily routine, I would continue walk up my stairs and look in the fridge or something similar. After a short period of time my guess is usually 2-10 minutes it would then reset and i would be back in my bed asleep unable to move again. Sometimes the second time i would be able to actually wake up however, a lot of the time, the process would repeat itself again. It would not be uncommon for this to happen up to 8 or 10 times in a row. This confuses me because Robert Bruce says people who experience the Waking Paralysis can not project themselves, and i felt no signs of vibrations or any other such things, it was just as if i was waking up normally, other than sometimes having sort of a dark and sluggish feel to it, although other times it wouldn't. I was hoping to get someone who is experienced in this to give me their opinion on what was happening.

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I'm not sure where he said that people don't project who have sleep paralysis. He may have said that people who wake up paralyzed are so overcome with fear at this phenomenon that they lose their window for projection. Is this what you mean?

You also may be confusing waking paralysis with false awakening. You think you woke up, but you're still in bed. This is a form of projection, short lived.

I have had both and they had different 'feels'. For one, in waking paralysis, there is a sense of visceral fear associated with it. Visual hallucinations (hag effect) may be present, but not always. It happens to me in the middle of the night, almost always, or in the beginning of it (soon after going to sleep).
False awakening usually happens (to me) in the early morning, there is a matter-of factness about it, and it's probably a better platform for OBE, because there is no fear with it at all.
I hope this helps to clear things for you, although nothing is written in stone.

[libertiespana]

I didn't mean that the people themselves can not project he just said that usually someone in waking paralysis can not project during waking paralysis, because they have usually already projected without knowing. Is it common for this false awaking to happen so many times in a row? And can it have very different feels, because sometimes it would have very heavy blurry and dark feeling sort of like slow motion, and other times it would be almost as if i had just normally woken up and i couldn't really tell the difference, also one one or two occasions there were strange differences in the reality that was otherwise the same, for instance i once recall going up the stairs to the first floor of my house from the basement, and then to the second floor..... which to me at the time seemed natural, but I don't have a second floor in my house.

[+++Poguru+++]

I didn't mean that the people themselves can not project he just said that usually someone in waking paralysis can not project during waking paralysis, because they have usually already projected without knowing.

Ok, I see that. Yes, I agree. Is it common for this false awaking to happen so many times in a row? Yes. I usually figured out I wasn't up by the third time I got up and started getting ready to make breakfast.
And can it have very different feels, because sometimes it would have very heavy blurry and dark feeling sort of like slow motion, and other times it would be almost as if i had just normally woken up and i couldn't really tell the difference, I think it has to do with levels of energy. The blurry slow one is prob. a regular dream, IMO.
also one one or two occasions there were strange differences in the reality that was otherwise the same, for instance i once recall going up the stairs to the first floor of my house from the basement, and then to the second floor..... which to me at the time seemed natural, but I don't have a second floor in my house. You were prob. projected into a low-energy (dream) environment. IMO.

[libertiespana]

I was interested in your response to this and so I decided to do a form of test, I knew it was easy for me to get into very deep sleeps by taking naps in the middle of the day, but I would try to keep my mind awake. I fell into a deep sleep and my mind woke up while sleeping I was laying on my stomach so I simply tried to roll over, this worked several times, I noticed however whenever I got maybe to a certain distance it would stop and i would be in my bed again. I also noticed that the times on the clocks were later than it actually was, as when i really woke up the time was actually before most of the times I had seen in my experiment. I am thinking this could have been caused by the worry of my mother being home at a certain time, and I knew I had told her I would lift something and move it for her earlier in the day. I could move at a rather fast pace, I tried jumping as well, and every time i jumped it made a sound similar to old school video games. This doesn't necessarily surprise me as i have NLD and I am thinking that may be a factor, seeing as I am an auditory learner. I think that being projected into a dream environment is a possibility. What are your thoughts on all this, and do you think I could use it to help me achieve OBE if it is simply a "dream environment" and if so how? I did feel things very realistically i would like to point out which seems odd for a dream, perhaps it is possible to be in some form of in between dream state?