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Old 01-18-2007, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default Trick of the light or...?
When I look at the sky and focus a bit I see what resembles little lightning bolts but they kind of wiggle all around my field of vision. Has anybody else experienced this?
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:06 PM   #2
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Yes, especially when flying on planes. I have seen a lot of strange things in the sky while flying.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:14 PM   #3
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Yes, especially when flying on planes. I have seen a lot of strange things in the sky while flying.
It happens to me throughout my day, all I need to do is look at the sky.
I asked my brother about it and he said it was a trick of the light.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:04 PM   #4
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I just did something yesterday something that dramatically augmented the effect (not on purpose.) I was walking through the house (towards a big bright window) bent down to pick up something off the floor, stayed down about 10 secs., and when I came up (directly in front of the window) About a gazillion of those little light thingies came up in front of my eyes, almost preventing me from seeing. (imagine so many sparklies you can't hardly see). They quickly dissipated leaving the usual amount.
To me this shows this is a physical characteristic of the eye. What it is specifically, IDK.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:41 PM   #5
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I just did something yesterday something that dramatically augmented the effect (not on purpose.) I was walking through the house (towards a big bright window) bent down to pick up something off the floor, stayed down about 10 secs., and when I came up (directly in front of the window) About a gazillion of those little light thingies came up in front of my eyes, almost preventing me from seeing. (imagine so many sparklies you can't hardly see). They quickly dissipated leaving the usual amount.
To me this shows this is a physical characteristic of the eye. What it is specifically, IDK.
I guess it most likely is, I've never heard anyone mention it and it's usually the same. I noticed that when i focus on using peripheral vision I seem to see them more clearly.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:53 PM   #6
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Bending down for a while and then standing up I think would produce a sudden drop in blood pressure.
Remindes me of hyperventilating years ago. That'll produce lights!
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:20 AM   #7
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Bending down for a while and then standing up I think would produce a sudden drop in blood pressure.
Remindes me of hyperventilating years ago. That'll produce lights!
yes, i always had this low pressure and whenever i would bend to get something from the floor, and suddenly stand up again, i would feel this white little lights blurring in the eyes! The sensation of a buzzing at the level of the third eye but above the ears was felt. When the buzzing would stop, then the eyes would recover the vision. The doctor explained it being the blood pressure effect due to suddent changes from high to low pressures. I wish those same doctors would explain EXACTLIER... .

the fact that we have blood in the eye arteries which changes it's flow when we abruptly raise our head's inverting the flow, would produce an effect of inflation in them (eye arteries) and thus the eyes white substance would react similarly to a TV screen which is being tuned into a specific freequency... . i dont know, i am not a Doc, but i imagine it happenning that way, due to the felt effect.
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:23 AM   #8
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I think, ultimately, when we're considering these lights we have to consider phosphenes. Even in congenitally blind people electrical stimulation will produces flashes of light.
A possible experiment: What if a strong magnet were applied to the eyes or the brow chakra? This would produce a mild current, but would it effect the lights?
I wonder.....
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:49 AM   #9
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Magnetism only affects iron (and compounds containing it), so it would only affect red blood cells, IMO. Unless phosphenes have iron in it, I don't think it would.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:50 AM   #10
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Nay. An MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) machine uses magnetism to align the electrons of hydrogen atoms (if I remember correctly)... Magnetism produces a current and has some effect on the electrical activity of the brain.
That's not to say the silly experiment is worth trying, though. I doubt there would be any appreciable effect caused by the magnet. Still, this forum reaches so many talented people I thought it might be worth suggesting.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:40 AM   #11
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Nay. An MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) machine uses magnetism to align the electrons of hydrogen atoms (if I remember correctly)... Magnetism produces a current and has some effect on the electrical activity of the brain.
That's not to say the silly experiment is worth trying, though. I doubt there would be any appreciable effect caused by the magnet. Still, this forum reaches so many talented people I thought it might be worth suggesting.
Magnetism induces electricity and electricity induces magnetism. The magnetic field of the earth is caused by the molten metal (iron) core of the earth. This in turn affects polarized iron in nature, possibly because the cause of this em field is moving iron. In an MRI machine the electromagnetic field is induced by using electricity and running it through powerful magnets, and then shaped (or modulated) into an RF signal that makes the hydrogen molecules resonate, and depending on their natural spin, the difference in the resonance with the energy put in creates the picture, since we're talking particle spin effects.
In other words, yes, the powerful effects of the MRI work because our tissues already have their EMF and because we have learned to manipulate the electromagnetism to map these hydrogen atoms.
But the the value of the magnetic field of the earth, which is the cause of the iron's behavior when polarized, is already what it is, so that a magnet will only affect iron in tissue.
So a regular old magnet will only affect iron. And most of the iron in our bodies is in red blood cells.
However, I don't see any problem in such experiments, I do like magnets for pain control and have good results with one for my occasional wrist pain. So go ahead and let me know how it works out.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:15 AM   #12
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Nice..............
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Old 01-20-2007, 06:46 AM   #13
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It happens to me throughout my day, all I need to do is look at the sky.
Yes, I too am able to induce and experience this when looking at the sky, or any bright light source. They look like tiny white fireflies flying around in random directions.

I've done some research on this in the past, but I haven't been able to find much. I have heard some accounts however that some people who come out of a deep hypnotic trance see them for about 2-5 seconds. What this means, I have no idea.

I was walking through the house (towards a big bright window) bent down to pick up something off the floor, stayed down about 10 secs., and when I came up (directly in front of the window) About a gazillion of those little light thingies came up in front of my eyes, almost preventing me from seeing. (imagine so many sparklies you can't hardly see). They quickly dissipated leaving the usual amount.
To me this shows this is a physical characteristic of the eye. What it is specifically, IDK.
I agree that it has something to do with the physical characteristic of the eyes. Something to do with the amount of blood that flows to the eyes perhaps.
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Old 01-20-2007, 12:15 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Shameless018 It happens to me throughout my day, all I need to do is look at the sky.
Yes, I too am able to induce and experience this when looking at the sky, or any bright light source. They look like tiny white fireflies flying around in random directions.

I've done some research on this in the past, but I haven't been able to find much. I have heard some accounts however that some people who come out of a deep hypnotic trance see them for about 2-5 seconds. What this means, I have no idea.

I was walking through the house (towards a big bright window) bent down to pick up something off the floor, stayed down about 10 secs., and when I came up (directly in front of the window) About a gazillion of those little light thingies came up in front of my eyes, almost preventing me from seeing. (imagine so many sparklies you can't hardly see). They quickly dissipated leaving the usual amount.
To me this shows this is a physical characteristic of the eye. What it is specifically, IDK.
I agree that it has something to do with the physical characteristic of the eyes. Something to do with the amount of blood that flows to the eyes perhaps. Yeah, they do seem like fireflies going in random directions. I guess it's just a normal reaction after all. Thank you to everyone who helped answer the question, it really helped.
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:57 AM   #15
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I experience this too, here's more information about it:

"the appearance of tiny bright dots moving rapidly along squiggly lines in the visual field. It is much more noticeable when viewed against a field of pure blue light and is caused by white blood cells moving in the capillaries in front of the retina."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entoptic_phenomenon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field ... phenomenon

I'm also near-sighted.
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