[constanyiskancho]

First off I'd like to say that these forums are wonderful. It's nice to see that people spend more time helping each other here instead of arguing/flaming, which is rare on a forum these days. (Maybe I havn't spend enough time here yet )

I've been researching/practicing expanded conciousness and OBEs for a few weeks now, and was actually led to the subject by my investigation of 11:11 time prompts that seemed to be getting more and more frequent. Not sure if I've really bought into the 11:11 midwayers assertion, but I'm keeping an open mind. Regardless, it eventually led me to the Monroe Institute and their GE cds and gainig more knowledge on the subject(s) has consumed me since. I've recently purchased Atral Dynamics, which so far is a great book and has helped my very logical mind to accept these otherwise vauge and "mystical" concepts.

During the first week or so, I was amazed at the sensations I was experiencing. During the Intro to focus 10 I experienced an amazing feeling of peace/happiness/love that really made me think that there's something here. I had even felt what I now think were "vibrations", although at the time I hadn't really read much literature, and was unaware of what they were. It also almost instantly changed my mindset during the day, and I felt MUCH more positivity, calmness and clarity; more centered I guess.

My problem is that the last week or two have not been as pleasant. I havn't had any negative experiences, but the positivity has faded somewhat. Most noticably, I been having this recurring anxious feeling when I'm meditating (and also occasionally when I'm not). It doesn't always happen, but when it does it's a very noticable physical sensation that I have a very hard time shaking. The strange thing is that it doesn't quite feel like normal anxiety (with which I have a fair amount of experience) but seems to be originating externally instead of internally. It's like the mental aspect of anxiety is missing, but the physical sensation is there. This obviously makes it very hard to relax.

Something that may be worth mentioning is that it seemed to start after one night when I had an (apparent) failed OBE attempt. I fell asleep during the attempt and woke several hours later, goping directly to bed. The next day I noticed that my outlook wasn't as bright and I was more iritable, etc. This was also around the time (though I think a bit before) I had started reading about negs, and their ability to hamper your spiritual development, etc.

Has anyone experienced this before? Is it possible that reading of these negative aspects has simply created new fears that I'm not conciously aware of and these are causing the anxiety? Is it possible that I actually did have a negative OBE and just don't remember? Are these just common feelings that need to be worked through?

Any thoughts, suggestions or wisdom would be greatly appreciated. I hope to be spending much more time here in the future.

Thanks!

[MexicoCity]

2623 wrote: Has anyone experienced this before? Is it possible that reading of these negative aspects has simply created new fears that I'm not conciously aware of and these are causing the anxiety? Is it possible that I actually did have a negative OBE and just don't remember? Are these just common feelings that need to be worked through? It is possible you experienced the 'dweller on the threshold ' phenomenon on your possibly failed OBE. It is possible that because of that you programmed yourself to have negative feelings when thinking of projecting. To be safe, I suggest doing some passive countermeasures or open in protection (there is a thread in the psychic self defense section about it) before you meditate. If you have a religious persuasion ask for help from angels or deities, and if not go the incense/good feelings route.

[constanyiskancho]

Thanks for the reply CFTraveler. That may explain why the feelings of curiosity and "thirst" (for lack of a better description) I previously had when reading on the subject have been replaced, to a certain extent, with feelings of aprehension and anxiety.
I'll take your advice and read up on the defense methods you mentioned. I have also recently made a point of asking for help and guidance regularly (well, semi-...) so hopefully that will help.
It seems that being ignorant of the negative aspects of OBEs could be an advantage, at least for a short time while starting out?

Thank you again.