[rXpX]

Last morning I had 3 obe´s in a row, i hoovered up from bed.
In all 3 I stayed in my room to check if everything was normal, I looked into my aquarium to see if the fish looked they way they are suppose to look.
They looked slightly different and the arrangements in the aquarium was
also different, I guess I thought to myself that they are close enough and started to explore further.

Does this mean that the reality fluctuations started almost immediatly after I got "out of body"or was i never in the realtimezone at all?

Perhaps I was instead in some lucid dream and the reason why reality was diffrent was because I made up the lucid dream from fussy memories of what everything should look like.
BUT... I had exit sensations and had slight problems with gravity when flying..

really don´t know what to think now...

[desmond001]

Did you have any exit symptoms, like vibrations or memory of separation?

[rXpX]

yeah, i felt vibrations and i remember my body floating and hoovering over the bed

[desmond001]

Did you 'see' your floating body, or were you your floating body?

[rXpX]

I 100% sure it me who was floating up, I felt weighlessness, I didn´t see myself, but I could pass through things but I also landed on the ground when I passed through my window, so I guess i was solid and not solid at the same time.

Any thoughts on why my reality fluctuations started so soon, if I was in the realtimezone at all?

[desmond001]

Yep, sounds like you were OB all right. Now, why reality fluctuations so soon? I dunno, it's been happenning to me a lot too- I've been OBing for over 20 years spontaneously, and it's just been in the past 3 or 4 years I've been having OB's that resemble cartoons- The prevailing theory is energy or lucidity- if you're low, then the dreaming mind takes over- I believe this to be true, but I think expectations are also causing them. We have powerful imaginations and probably create most of what we see, so if we read about all these things that happen to others (like I do) we probably create our version of it. I know that is true for me, with a few exceptions (sort of a chicken-egg thing). Or maybe it's old age- astral senility (I'll be 49 this summer).

[97dYA9L3]

You first asked about shifting from OBE to dreaming in your "sitting" post, and I gave one theory there: http://forums.astraldynamics.com/vie...776&highlight=
-Matthew

[rXpX]

Thx for all the replies, and thx Matthew I read your theory on my previous post, not sure if I understood it completly though.
But I will try sitting


CFtraveler- so if you happen to end up in the RTZ you can´t really be sure what you are seeing is real if your mind starts drifting and creates thing from your mind.

[desmond001]

magic: CFtraveler- so if you happen to end up in the RTZ you can´t really be sure what you are seeing is real if your mind starts drifting and creates thing from your mind. Pretty much. Unless you receive some sort of verification (which does happen occasionally). However, objective reality is not the only way to describe reality, but maybe that should be a different topic.

[rXpX]

hmm, ok.

But how exactly do you mean that objective reality is not the only way to describe reality?

[desmond001]

Only that what we call objective reality [i.e. reality that exists apart independently of perception] may actually be consensus reality- reality that all of us collectively created, so that the reality fluctuations are caused by your individual expectations (maybe subconscious) while objective reality is really created by the collective, and also subject to some fluctuation, although not as easily as the part of reality that you create as an individual. If this is in any way confusing please bear in mind I haven't had my second cup of coffee today.