[trowUrillioth]

Hi!
I just wondered if sitting really works for averyone to induce an obe?
If your body is supposed to fall asleep but keep the mind wide awake, how does that work with a person that can´t fall asleep while sitting?

I´ve had a few obe which resembles reality but soon reality starts to fluctuate really bad (is this because i starts dreaming?) when I´m laying down in my bed

I guess that the queston I wan´t answered is if it´s possible to have a
really concious obe while sitting in your chair if you aren´t tired or do I have to be a little tired?

[Irravepem]

i always project in lying position. i never had any succes sitting. i think it must be possible to do this with enough practice. this is still what i want to achieve: to project at will from full waking consciousness at any time in any position.

[desmond001]

My best OBEs happen while sitting. I do it in a very comfortable recliner, in the morning (very early- 4 or 5am). I'm not sure why, but I think that the different position (instead of completely lying down) either keeps you closer to consciousness, or does something to the balance centers making it easier to get to a trance state. (It's easier to imagine you're rocking, for example, when reclined, than lying down (for me, that is.) Doing it when I do helps with the relaxation part. Since I was sleeping before, don't have to.

[97dYA9L3]

magic,
Sitting can work well and so can a slightly reclined position. I would suggest working with these two positions every once in a while even if lying down is easiest for you. I know I hated sitting when I first started. Now I find it to be as effective as lying down.

As for OBEs that resemble reality..... My experience points to "reality" as being at one end of a continuum. Physical reality is separated by a thin curtain from all the astral layers. Those astral layers that are closest to the curtain resemble physical reality the most. I believe real-time OBEs occur in a close astral "shadow" of physical reality just beyond the curtain and that it is easy to drift further into the astral where things resemble the "real world" much less.
Think of it another way: the world around you is not "real." It is a construct of your mind as it interprets what your senses tell it. In a sense, it is as if there is a little projector in your mind that displays "reality" and it is very easy for us to assume that the projection is "reality" instead of just a representation. I believe the Real-Time Zone is the same thing. It is a projection of "reality" onto the astral. The universe after all is a giant mind (the theory of microcosm=macrocosm). As such the RTZ is a projection of reality into the Mind of God.

-Matthew