[glasscollector]

I had a dream once where relatives told me to refrain from sexual activities etc.. I had been real frustrated about my lack of success over the course of a year in Astral Projection. I still have not had one.

I found it odd, then I see another post on another website about Tantric sex and something about holding your semen inside and not having orgasm, will help you astral travel better.

I had suspected something similar, but has anyone ever heard of this before?

Are any of you regular OBE'ers out there having regular sex and still successfully getting out of body?

Or does it help? I may have to break the news to my fiance...

[ChexEcodece]

That sucks. Lol, there is a debate that masturbation, sexual intercourse can affect your recall, what manifests in the astral plane; but i for one am not sure. Maybe you should give it a go, and if all goes well; you've proved your theory. It would most likely affect your dreams, as would food, exercise, your feelings etc.

[TeveVikep]

This is a strange topic. On the one hand refraining from all sexual activity could improve will power and focus.
Having sex/masturnabation could however, awaken sexual energy.

So as you can see there are two sides to the coin!

[egoldhyip]

I had a dream once where relatives told me to refrain from sexual activities etc.. I had been real frustrated about my lack of success over the course of a year in Astral Projection. I still have not had one.

I found it odd, then I see another post on another website about Tantric sex and something about holding your semen inside and not having orgasm, will help you astral travel better.

I had suspected something similar, but has anyone ever heard of this before?

Are any of you regular OBE'ers out there having regular sex and still successfully getting out of body?

Or does it help? I may have to break the news to my fiance...

I've never heard of this before, but I tend to have (and recall) spontaneous OBEs on the majority of the nights in which I go to bed after experiencing an orgasm, especially if I fall asleep immediately after. Of course, this isn't the controlled-exit variety .. but there does seem to be some link between sex and exiting the body.

[crycleascentyv]

No idea. But I do know (from experience) that holding back ejaculation by stop-starting increases the intenisty of the final orgasm and can even induce multiple orgasms in some men.

[glasscollector]

Interesting. I had first heard of this in my dream, and nowhere else. Maybe that was a clue in helping me get further into this.

I feel I am so close, I can get a permanent feeling of falling and an odd "light" feeling associated with that, but no vibrations whatsoever. I use a rope or ladder technique and keep climbing anc climbing and I just can't separate.

I keep drifting in and out of consciousness. Sometimes I do energy work beforehand sometimes I don't. But I know I tried for 2 hours straight last night in bed staying semi awake the whole time. I just can't do it.

Its getting so frustrating now.

I do get involuntary muscle spasms though that do awaken or nudge me.

Maybe I'll stop whacking off 4 times a day... (just kidding)

[Ikrleprl]

I've always noticed a decrease in the vividness of my dreams - after sex or masturbation or such. A couple of summers back, when I first got into my whole spirituality thing, sex/masturbation went out the window. I would go at it for a week apart at times, (at the time that was a good long while for me, being a pretty hormonal teenager and all) and I noticed a huge huge huge incrase in dreams, esp powers, and just about everything under the sun. So for me it has always decreased from spiritual experience all around.

That is not trying to condemn it though, it is still a part of life and I think a good balance is the best way to go.

Kevin

[desmond001]

OK. I've refrained from posting on this but I can stay quiet no more. Yes, sexuality is energy, and of course it can be channeled to OB instead of sexual release. That does happen. But there is a caveat.
What happens when you sexually deprive yourself? Does it affect the content of your dreams? Yes, they may be more intense, and more frequent even- but how does the content change?
You have more sexual dreams.
The same thing can happen in an OBE. You deprive yourself of sexual release, have an OB, and guess what's going to happen when you do take off: One guess- It won't be about meeting your higher self, guardian angel,or wise guides, or Gandalf, or your Guru. You will find yourself looking for astral sex. And you will either get frustrated, or find it, which can open up all kinds of trouble for you.
OK, I said it.

[Si8jy8HN]

I think my understanding on that somewhat diverges, a large amount of sexual activity can stir up the same amount of sexual activity (more?) in dreams than abstaining.

I think it is spot on that energy has intrinsic ties with sex.
Energy is a regulator to many aspects of existence, including sexual experience.
Although it might be probable to achieve out-of-body exit thru raising sexual energy as the energy grid will be charged for a short time after to achieve projection.
However after peaking the energy tends to drop, meaning the quality of astral experiences or even success of later projection might be limited for someone who has not yet mastered projection.

Nonetheless channeling energies is useful.
Channeling love energy can be utilized past basic desire principals -that is raising true soul energy and increasing consciousness/relaxation to make projection into other realms probable.
There is a clear distinction between raising energy driven desire and channeling love in the context of sexual experience, and the effects of each are substantial to the ends which is being attained.
Sex can be a v. spiritual act, or not such.

[rushiddink]

Something i'm interested in (which perhaps ties in with CF and Sashs posts) regards sexual drive and paranormal experiences.
I know that more than a few well known and respected occultists (for want of a better word) had very high sex drives. Is there a link between higher desire for sex and an increased frquency of paranormal/spiritual experience?

To be honest, I have a very high sex drive, and many of my first conscious undertakings in spiritual areas (meditation, energy work, trance, scrying, consious OBEs) sparked very sexual feelings in me.
I haven't noticed it be detrimental in any way either. At one point in my life where I was a practicing Christian I tried abstaining from masturbation, I think I lasted about 4-5 days. I didn't give in due to desire for sexual release, it was more my mind felt increasingly 'unhinged'(!). I had to have sexual release to function 'normally'. perhaps this does show an increase in energy which had to be released?

[Drugsonl]

There is a definite relation between sexual activity and dreaming. *Edited for vulgar sexual references. *You would see that REM usually comes with an erection.

Bot sexual and dreaming activity seem to depend on and deplete the brainstem's acetylcholine system. I think the acetylcholine system partly projects into the holographic body as the lower dantien, hara.

Usually, when attempting an OBE I start with charging up my hara. This would make me experience more hypnagogics and shorter transition times. Entering into sleep paralysis at will also becomes less difficult.

I've found that keeping a soft focus on the hara directly promotes sleep paralysis. Focusing on the middle of chest and head spaces works, too, because these three points are connected. (They are members of the same system which I call in-the body or autopoetic triad.)

So my final conclusion is that stimulating the hara increases "REM-pressure" probably by stimulating acetylcholine synthesis in the brainstem. You can deplete dreaming power by having orgasms alone. *Edited for the same*

[glasscollector]

D..n why does this have to be so dang difficult?

Maybe only the worthy are allowed to OBE?

[rushiddink]

D..n why does this have to be so dang difficult?

Maybe only the worthy are allowed to OBE?

It can seem difficult at times, but it really is one area where not giving up pays dividends in the long run. I really do know that everyone is capable of this, it's just a case of finding what works for you.