[chuecafressds]

Any Castaneda fans out there?

I've not yet been consciously successful at phasing as I understand it but am wondering if it may be similar to what Castaneda (Don Juan) referred to as shifting one's assemblage point?

[flnastyax]

Shifting of the assemblage point seemed to revolve around changing energy in ones aura (or 'shifting' it).
With the point shifted it seems one is still in body but with a changed state of consiousness.
Phasing is moving ones consciousness from this focus (of physical reality) to another non-material focus. Perhaps phasing very slightly might have a similar effect? One of entering a sort of altered state of consciousness through means of becoming distant from this focus - but not shifting focus enough to move to the astral completely. I'm not sure how the would differ to varying depths of trance though (it's possible to open the eyes even in moderately deep trance states and experiece quite a different state of consiousness of external reality).

[leahjhburton]

It was never really clear to me from reading those books what the assemblage point was or how to move it. It seems to be that there is a level of the aura where humans look like an egg, and the assemblage point is on that layer behind the shoulderblades?

[chuecafressds]

My limited understanding was that the luminosity (egg) is something like one's spiritual essense at it's physical nexus and that the assemblage point was something like the place of one's perception or awareness.

And that gradually over time, this point becomes fixed through consensual albeit oftentimes ignorant agreements such as, "the world is ...such and such a way".

I also understood the assmeblage point could be moved (violently/quickly through drugs and NDE's or more easily but maybe slower through impeccability to borrow a term) in, around and outside the luminous egg to experience many different points of perception including OBE's/AP.

I was wondering if the concept of phasing is similar to the concept of moving one's assemblage point.

Maybe it is an exercise in hypocrisy for me to try and determine consensus for these concepts that involve the notion of becoming a more fluid perceiver. However, I do appreciate your perspectives.

[PZXjoe]

Hi folks..!
I´ve a question for anyone of you (who can give reliable answer)

Has assemblage point control something to do with reality shift phenomenology..?

Thank you very much...
Sincerely,
Natalia Parker

[Qauunet]

sterlingindigo,

I guess I am a fan, I've read each of the books, but find the most compelling one, particularly the first half, to be 'The Art Of Dreaming'.
Here Don Juan states that:

"The decisive finding of the sorcerers of antiquity and the crucial feature of human beings as luminous balls, is a round spot of intense brilliance, the size of a tennis ball, permanently lodged inside the luminous ball, flush with its surface, about two feet back from the crest of a person's right shoulder blade.
The luminous ball is much larger than the human body. The spot of intense brilliance is part of this ball of energy, and it is located on a place at the height of the shoulder blades, an arm's length from a person's back. The old sorcerers named it the assemblage point after seeing what it does. It makes us perceive. In human beings, perception is assembled there, on that point. Seeing that all living beings have such a point of brilliance, the old sorcerers surmised that perception in general must take place on that spot, in whatever pertinent manner."

The point creates perception by being fixed by conditioning at a habitual point:

"They proposed that in human beings the assemblage point, by focusing its glowing sphere on the universe's filaments of energy that pass directly through it, automatically and without premeditation assembles those filaments into a steady perception of the world."

The point can be moved in two ways:

"The old sorcerers were capable of distinguishing two types of assemblage point displacement. One was a displacement to any position on the surface or in the interior of the luminous ball; this displacement they called a shift of the assemblage point. The other was a displacement to a position outside the luminous ball; they called this displacement a movement of the assemblage point. They found out that the difference between a shift and a movement was the nature of the perception each allows.
Since the shifts of the assemblage point are displacements within the luminous ball, the worlds engendered by them, no matter how bizarre or wondrous or unbelievable they might be, are still worlds within the human domain. The human domain is the energy filaments that pass through the entire luminous ball. By contrast, movements of the assemblage point, since they are displacements to positions outside the luminous ball, engage filaments of energy that are beyond the human realm. Perceiving such filaments engenders worlds that are beyond comprehension, inconceivable worlds with no trace of human antecedents in them."

Finally the point can be moved by:

"It is displaced through energy currents. Jolts of energy, originating outside or inside our energy shape. These are usually unpredictable currents that happen randomly, but with sorcerers they are very predictable currents that obey the sorcerer's intent ."

"The energy needed to release our dreaming attention from its socialization prison comes from redeploying our existing energy. The emergence of our dreaming attention is a direct corollary of revamping our lives. Since we have no way to plug into any external source for a boost of energy, we must redeploy our existing energy, by any means available."

Sorry it's such a long answer but I thought it better coming from the horses mouth so to speak. If you want the fuller online text then try out:

http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan9.html

The interesting bit to me as a person struggling to reach the astral body is that Don Juan is saying that it's about energy. I'll just keep on plugging away.

Hope this helps,

Wilson

[chuecafressds]

nparker, sorry I can be of no help in answering your very interesting question. Please tell us what is your take on Reality Shift Phenomenon? I hope to read the responses. Have enjoyed many of your other posts. Respectfully yours...

wilson, that was impeccable! Thank you for putting that together.

The idea that phasing, assemblage point manipulation and reality shift phenomena may share some of the same basic tenants is certainly intriguing to me.

I think this may have ramifications in the areas of not only OBE's, but those of healing, grace and all that is good (and not so good, if one so chooses).

Blessings,
sterlingindigo