[ibiDb4uu]

As much as i enjoy enegy work, and the possibility of having an OBE, I can't get rid of my skepticism...

If you have to keep your body asleep and your mind awake, to gain control of your dreams - then doesn't this make an OBE effectively a lucid dream, except one where the surroundings are constricted to your knowledge of your surroundings (the supposed RTZ).

This would explain real time fluctuations as you are in a dreamscape and not actually out of your body.

[GogaMegaPis]

read robert monroes book journeys out of body. Then you might be a little less skeptic

[Snweyuag]

How then do you explain people meeting outside of body?

[ibiDb4uu]

you can meet people in a dream can't you. theres no difference.

i just can't distinguish between dreams and an obe... until, maybe one day I have a descent one.

[Snweyuag]

By meet I mean, see each other, interact, and both remember the same event after the fact while in body again.

[Grenader]

Spectral Dragon wrote:
If you can meet and interact with other people doesn't this imply that there is a connection to other people? does this not also imply that there is more to ourselves than our own bodies? He is not talking about you dreaming that you saw another person in a dream- he's talking about when 2 projectors interact and remember afterwards. In my experience I haven't done that but I've seen other people do things far away that were later confirmed by them. If that was a dream then I'm a really good guesser! Also, there are plenty of instances in this forum where other people have seen the projector as a "ghost".

[mrPronmaker]

Yes, fair point, I forgot to concider two people confirming a meet in an obe.
Still, that would have to happen to me, for me to believe it.

[9TWSg835]

id have to find a willing participant who can project, and i can't even do it myself yet. so no.