[Blacksheepaalredy]

Ariz House: Check Obama's Citizenship

POSTED: 7:15 pm MST April 19, 2010
UPDATED: 10:23 pm MST April 19, 2010

PHOENIX -- The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for reelection.

The House voted 31-22 to add the provision to a separate bill. The measure still faces a formal vote.

It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the ballot in Arizona to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president.

Phoenix Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said the bill is one of several measures that are making Arizona "the laughing stock of the nation."

Mesa Republican Rep. Cecil Ash said he has no reason to doubt Obama's citizenship but supports the measure because it could help end doubt.

http://www.kpho.com/news/23202195/detail.html

[Blacksheepaalredy]

I realy wish someone would answer this question.

Whether or not there is any credence to the "birthers" arguments (and I think they're wrong, but regardless) - has anyone ever questioned that Barrack's mother was a United States citizen? And therefore, isn't he a US citizen no matter where he was born?

[Sarah Armstrong]

I realy wish someone would answer this question.

Whether or not there is any credence to the "birthers" arguments (and I think they're wrong, but regardless) - has anyone ever questioned that Barrack's mother was a United States citizen? And therefore, isn't he a US citizen no matter where he was born?

Anyone born on US soil is American, but to inherit citizenship by your parents if born elsewhere there are some requirements:
-both parents must be American
-or if only one of them is, he/she must have lived in the US a certain amount of years, some of them after the age of 14.

Under the current law, if both parents are US citizens and are married, then the child is a US citizen if either parent had a "residence" in the US at any time in his or her life prior to the child's birth. There is no specific minimum period of time in the law for how long a parent must have been in the US in order for his/her status to be accepted as having been "residence" in the US.

If one parent is a US citizen, and the other is not, and the parents are married, then the current law says the child is a US citizen if the American parent was physically present in the US for one or more periods of time totalling at least five years, at some time or times in his or her life prior to (but not necessarily immediately prior to) the child's birth. Additionally, at least two years out the required five years of physical presence must have taken place after the parent's 14th birthday; thus, for example, a parent who was born and grew up in the US, but who left before reaching age 16 and never returned, doesn't meet the requirement.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html#CitByBirth
oh, and for the second time today, I'm just speechless.

[Theariwinna]

I realy wish someone would answer this question.

Whether or not there is any credence to the "birthers" arguments (and I think they're wrong, but regardless) - has anyone ever questioned that Barrack's mother was a United States citizen? And therefore, isn't he a US citizen no matter where he was born?

It says in the article that they want him to "meet the constitutional requirements to be president" which means a natural-born citizen. There are several interpretations of what that means (the Constitution doesn't say), but, using the State Department interpretation McCain was the one who didn't meet the requirement. The Senate actually passed a resolution basically awarding him natural-born citizen status!

Here's what Wikipedia has about this on Obama:

• Barack Obama (born 1961), 44th president of the United States, was born in Honolulu, Hawaii to a U.S. citizen mother and a British subject father from what was then the Kenya Colony of the United Kingdom (which became the independent country of Kenya in 1963). Before and after the 2008 presidential election, arguments were made that he is not a natural born citizen. On June 12, 2008, the Obama presidential campaign launched a website to counter what it described as smears by his opponents, including these challenges to his eligibility.[56] The most prominent issue raised against Obama was the claim made in several lawsuits that he was not actually born in Hawaii. In two other lawsuits, the plaintiffs argued that it was irrelevant whether he was born in Hawaii,[57] but argued instead that he was nevertheless not a natural born citizen because his citizenship status at birth was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948.[58] The relevant courts have either denied all applications or declined to render a judgment due to lack of jurisdiction. Some of the cases have been dismissed because of the plaintiff's lack of standing.[25] On July 28, 2009, Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued a statement saying, "I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,".[59] On July 27, 2009, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 593, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii's statehood, including the text, "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961." [60] The vote passed 378-0. [61]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural..._United_States

[Theariwinna]

BTW, I'd be so angry right now if I were an AZ taxpayer, paying these time-wasters' salaries

[gimffnfabaykal]

Arizona House can not be serious.

[riverakathy]

Phoenix Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said the bill is one of several measures that are making Arizona "the laughing stock of the nation."

They've gotta do more than this if they want to unseat Texas.

[soydaykam]

What's so aggravating is that his birth certificate has been available all along. But like so many other things with these people, they believe if you say a lie enough times it becomes fact.

(Of course, in the state of Arizona, they also want Hispanics to carry their proof of citizenship with them at all times or risk going to jail. But that's a different subject for a different thread.)

[broksaksaak]

Um...Go Suns?

[iNYZgxNC]

They've gotta do more than this if they want to unseat Texas.

Have you read about their plans to racially profile anyone who looks like they might be an illegal immigrant?

And let's not forget about the legislation to carry concealed weapons in bars.

They're catching up.

[realnilkless]

Ariz House: Check Obama's Citizenship

POSTED: 7:15 pm MST April 19, 2010
UPDATED: 10:23 pm MST April 19, 2010

PHOENIX -- The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for reelection.

The House voted 31-22 to add the provision to a separate bill. The measure still faces a formal vote.

It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the ballot in Arizona to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president.

Phoenix Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said the bill is one of several measures that are making Arizona "the laughing stock of the nation."

Mesa Republican Rep. Cecil Ash said he has no reason to doubt Obama's citizenship but supports the measure because it could help end doubt.

http://www.kpho.com/news/23202195/detail.html

Is this even freaking LEGAL? Sounds like something from Jim Crow Era

[riverakathy]

What's so aggravating is that his birth certificate has been available all along. But like so many other things with these people, they believe if you say a lie enough times it becomes fact.

(Of course, in the state of Arizona, they also want Hispanics to carry their proof of citizenship with them at all times or risk going to jail. But that's a different subject for a different thread.)

I know. The birth certificate was released. He ordered one just the same as you or I would, received a certified copy, and released it during his campaign. If this is what they require, it was done. None of us can produce the original. It is not allowed out of the State office where it is held. If that is what they want, then no one can be President.

[elton]

What a bunch of babies. They just can't let it go that he won, can they?

[Sanremogirl]

What a bunch of babies. They just can't let it go that he won, can they?

I don't think they're ever going to let it go.

And in all honesty, I'm surprised it's Arizona doing this. At a glance, I would consider Arizona very liberal. Shows how much I know.

[Ettiominiw]

What a bunch of babies. They just can't let it go that he won, can they?

No they can't, he's half Black and they're all White.

[soydaykam]

No they can't, he's half Black and they're all White.

I'm not even sure it's an entirely racial thing. They simply want to save our democracy... unless the democratically elected president isn't a Republican. It's really quite mind-boggling.