[Argurnenoni]

This is an interesting article...


Primal Nature

The standard explanation for our sexual choices for the past twenty years has been Sexual Strategies Theory: women are choosy about their partners because they need someone strong and resourceful to take care of their offspring, a guy likely to stick around during those tumultuous child-rearing years. Men, on the other hand, have an evolutionary drive to propagate their seedlings far and wide, preferably in young, fertile wombs belonging to faithful partners. This pits the genders (I use that word in the traditional sense, no insult intended to queers) against one another, creating dysfunctional mating and marriage patterns.

But Madsen’s journey is confirmation that something besides procreation drives our dalliances. A happily married mother of teenage boys enjoying weekly visits with her Therapist-cum-Adonis Sacred Intimate is looking for something, but it ain’t a papa for her brood.

And if baby making was the reason for our factories in the first place, how do we explain all our non-productive humping? Humans have very “unproductive” sex by evolutionary standards, on the odds of hundreds of couplings per successful insemination.

Forget the phrase, screwing like bunnies: if people were truly like the majority of animals, we’d hook up during estrus only. Instead, we are a decidedly horny species capable of extreme sexual acts. And the female orgasm is bar none an experience to behold with many paths — clitoral, vaginal, g-spot, etc. — shaking our booties and bedrooms. There’s more than genetic strategizing going on behind closed doors.

Picky Lovers

That women are “choosier” than men is scientifically verified. A commonly referenced 1989 study, by psychologists Russell Clark and Elaine Hatfield, asked female college students to introduce themselves to a male colleague and offer sex. In those trials, up to 75 percent of the guys said yes. When the roles were reversed, not a single woman was interested in casual sex with the guys. http://www.alternet.org/sex/150616/w...or_having_sex/

What if Making Babies -- Extending the Species -- Isn't the Real Reason for Having Sex?
What if everything we've ever learned about our basic motivation to have sex — the procreation of the species — is unequivocally wrong?

Outside the box....

[LomodiorCon]

This is an interesting article...


What if Making Babies -- Extending the Species -- Isn't the Real Reason for Having Sex?
What if everything we've ever learned about our basic motivation to have sex — the procreation of the species — is unequivocally wrong?

Outside the box....

I've never had sex for the purpose of even thinking about procreation...I decided when I was 15 years old I did not want to have children of my own...

[girlsround]

I agree....but that hasn't been the dominant thought on the subject. I think we've all been programed (or at least the 'official' line) has been about procreation.

[diemeareendup]

This is an interesting article...


http://www.alternet.org/sex/150616/w...or_having_sex/

What if Making Babies -- Extending the Species -- Isn't the Real Reason for Having Sex?
What if everything we've ever learned about our basic motivation to have sex — the procreation of the species — is unequivocally wrong?

Outside the box....

Picky Lovers

That women are “choosier” than men is scientifically verified. A commonly referenced 1989 study, by psychologists Russell Clark and Elaine Hatfield, asked female college students to introduce themselves to a male colleague and offer sex. In those trials, up to 75 percent of the guys said yes. When the roles were reversed, not a single woman was interested in casual sex with the guys. This is an example of sexual dimorphisim. It is certainly not unique to humans. Females (in general) have a greater biological investment into reproduction, this makes them the chooser while the male will mate with just about anything. In species where the male has a greater investment in raising the offspring (some bird species as an example), the roles are reversed and the male is the chooser while the females will wantingly mate with multiple partners.

Everyone doesn't need to want to have children, evolution only requires a sufficient number (or accidents) to continue the species.

[Promalada]

while the male will mate with just about anything.

LOL........

[Zhgpavye]

This is an example of sexual dimorphisim. It is certainly not unique to humans. Females (in general) have a greater biological investment into reproduction, this makes them the chooser while the male will mate with just about anything. In species where the male has a greater investment in raising the offspring (some bird species as an example), the roles are reversed and the male is the chooser while the females will wantingly mate with multiple partners.

Everyone doesn't need to want to have children, evolution only requires a sufficient number (or accidents) to continue the species.

thats bullshit....I'm very picky when it comes to which women I'll have sex with....

[zueqhbyhp]

LOL........

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[capeAngedlelp]

thats bullshit....I'm very picky when it comes to which women I'll have sex with....

Breathing.... check.
Doesn't have Leprosy... check
Under the age of 96... check
Has bathed in the last 30 days... check
Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button... check
wait... Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button and doesn't have a great rack... check

Sexual Dimorphisim is a generality. There are always exceptions and our species is full of them. Also we are moving towards a lower level of sexual dimorphisim.

[moredasers]

Breathing.... check.
Doesn't have Leprosy... check
Under the age of 96... check
Has bathed in the last 30 days... check
Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button... check
wait... Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button and doesn't have a great rack... check

Sexual Dimorphisim is a generality. There are always exceptions and our species is full of them. Also we are moving towards a lower level of sexual dimorphisim.

now thats very funny.. good one t-cat...I'm not claiming I've never had an indiscretion, I'm just saying they have been very very far and few between ....I'm a very loyal person, by nature...as for the great rack, not that big a deal to me...I'm a leg guy...

[allvideO]

Breathing.... check.
Doesn't have Leprosy... check
Under the age of 96... check
Has bathed in the last 30 days... check
Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button... check
wait... Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button and doesn't have a great rack... check

Sexual Dimorphisim is a generality. There are always exceptions and our species is full of them. Also we are moving towards a lower level of sexual dimorphisim.

still lmao on that one....

[erelvenewmeva]

now thats very funny.. good one t-cat...I'm not claiming I've never had an indiscretion, I'm just saying they have been very very far and few between ....I'm a very loyal person, by nature...as for the great rack, not that big a deal to me...I'm a leg guy...

Okay I'll change that list item to:

Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button and doesn't have a great legs... check

[DianaDrk]

Okay I'll change that list item to

Doesn't wear an Obama 08 button and doesn't have a great legs... check

hmmmmm.....yes I can be fairly funny about that leg thing....thats the reason I start at the toes and work my way up....

[Gintovtosik]

shouldve been a better man, damn....

[nasxbrtyol]

This is an example of sexual dimorphisim. It is certainly not unique to humans. Females (in general) have a greater biological investment into reproduction, this makes them the chooser while the male will mate with just about anything. In species where the male has a greater investment in raising the offspring (some bird species as an example), the roles are reversed and the male is the chooser while the females will wantingly mate with multiple partners.

Everyone doesn't need to want to have children, evolution only requires a sufficient number (or accidents) to continue the species.

However, the thrust of the article is that females aren't necessarily looking for the strongest male...they are looking for pleasure. Read beyond what I posted...

The question isn't about procreation...it's about why it's evolutionarily advantageous for us to have an 'open season' and all those nerve bundles. If it were just about procreation we could easily achieve that without all the wanton humping. We are such whores!!!

[Romobencience]

However, the thrust of the article is that females aren't necessarily looking for the strongest male...they are looking for pleasure. Read beyond what I posted...

That is an example of how sexual dimorphisim in humans has been decreasing relative to our primate cousins. Females have more freedom to seek non-procreation sex.

The question isn't about procreation...it's about why it's evolutionarily advantageous for us to have an 'open season' and all those nerve bundles. If it were just about procreation we could easily achieve that without all the wanton humping. We are such whores!!! Wanton humping is fine, it doesn't have to be advantageous. Unless it is significantly disadvantageous then evolution doesn't care. There are many factors involved, likely the development of our brain at the cost of other characteristics (such as a keen sense of smell) has changed our sexual behavior over time.

[Olympicdreams]

However, the thrust of the article is that females aren't necessarily looking for the strongest male...they are looking for pleasure. Read beyond what I posted...

I think much of it is so primal and in your subconscious you aren't even aware of your true motives. It is interesting though.

You're not attracted to a dumb, bottom-of-the-barrel loser, right? How much of that is your conscious choice and how much is simply procreative instinct? I think it's the latter.

[freflellalafe]

I guess the whole argument by the religious right about marriage and what it is and why is trying to convince everyone that their narrow view of sexuality is the only 'correct' one. Political correctness to the nth degree.

The body does seem to have it's own mind at times which is a good reason to have excellent birth control and abortion available if needed. There is much about this topic I find fascinating and of course it goes completely against the new earth creationists. They can't even discuss it I suppose as their world view doesn't include anything but 'gawd made it that way'...

Bonobo chimps are sexy and use sex for much of their interaction within their social group. I think a lot of our view of sexuality comes from conditioning rather than nature. Just my POV.

[RjkVwPcV]

I guess the whole argument by the religious right about marriage and what it is and why is trying to convince everyone that their narrow view of sexuality is the only 'correct' one. Political correctness to the nth degree.

The body does seem to have it's own mind at times which is a good reason to have excellent birth control and abortion available if needed. There is much about this topic I find fascinating and of course it goes completely against the new earth creationists. They can't even discuss it I suppose as their world view doesn't include anything but 'gawd made it that way'...

Bonobo chimps are sexy and use sex for much of their interaction within their social group. I think a lot of our view of sexuality comes from conditioning rather than nature. Just my POV.

Agreed, wholeheartedly. When I mentioned that I was basically a straight man, but I had a slight bisexual side over at AWE, you should have seen the homophobes come out. Wow. It would have been funny, had it not been so sad. I very recently put this in the music thread, but NO SONG better suits this thread...

[yovbQVpD]

The best way for males to spread their genes is by having sex with as many partners as possible. Having 1,000 offspring means that many will survive into adulthood.

For females it's different because they are vulnerable and have to care for children. Having a male to care for them is important.

That's why women are often more attracted to money and power then men. That's also why men are more attracted to women that are very flirty and appear to sleep around.

[catarleriarly]

I've also discovered that when my wife is ovulating we're both, well, overly attracted to each other so there must be something going on.