[pepBarihepe]

Is it just me or does this guy seem complacent to come in 2-3rd? I know its tough to medal in any event but for as much hype as this guy has he seems to be underachieving and ok with it.

7 medals is an amazing accomplishment but he seems happy just getting a bronze to add to the total count instead of going for the gold.

[BadbarmrapBef]

You know I was thinking the same thing he has so much hype but a small number of golds

[Tapupah]

Is it just me or does this guy seem complacent to come in 2-3rd? I know its tough to medal in any event but for as much hype as this guy has he seems to be underachieving and ok with it.

7 medals is an amazing accomplishment but he seems happy just getting a bronze to add to the total count instead of going for the gold.

He slipped in that race last night otherwise there is a pretty good chance he would have won it. He was pretty frustrated with it afterwards in the interview, but he's a pretty good sport about it.

[ClapekDodki]

People, people, please! You're forgetting what the Olympics are all about: giving out medals of beautiful gold, so-so silver and shameful bronze. -The Chairman We must remember those words of wisdom.

[movlabk]

Is it just me or does this guy seem complacent to come in 2-3rd? I know its tough to medal in any event but for as much hype as this guy has he seems to be underachieving and ok with it.

7 medals is an amazing accomplishment but he seems happy just getting a bronze to add to the total count instead of going for the gold.

Our standards are so much higher after watching phelps. Given the his reaction when he won gold in the last olympics I would say he reaction this time around is just about right. After the slip it took a lot just to get the bronze.

[didrexx]

He slipped in that race last night otherwise there is a pretty good chance he would have won it. He was pretty frustrated with it afterwards in the interview, but he's a pretty good sport about it.

Right. He actually showed a lot of determination in that race just to grab the bronze after that slip.

If you know the history of Ohno's medals, 7 doesn't seem like such a great number.

One might say he's underachieving, and others might say he's been extremely lucky to get some of the medals he has, but last night he EARNED that bronze. It wasn't a matter of "choking" to a bronze by any means.

Those types of races are often determined by some bumping or someone falling down. This time it didn't benefit Ohno.

[Serereids]

Yeah, they make such a production of him tying/passing Bonnie Blair, but make no mention of the fact that five of her six medals were gold. Short track is kind of a ridiculous discipline anyway- so many skaters at once, swinging their arms and foot-long blades around. It's so hard to pass, and has so many crashes- just seems to be way too dependent on luck. Then half the time some judges decide to DQ someone and/or advance some hack who wiped out on the first lap because they were interfered with. I dunno, long track seems like a much better sport to me.

[Uzezqelj]

Yeah, they make such a production of him tying/passing Bonnie Blair, but make no mention of the fact that five of her six medals were gold. Short track is kind of a ridiculous discipline anyway- so many skaters at once, swinging their arms and foot-long blades around. It's so hard to pass, and has so many crashes- just seems to be way too dependent on luck. Then half the time some judges decide to DQ someone and/or advance some hack who wiped out on the first lap because they were interfered with. I dunno, long track seems like a much better sport to me.

Not that I know much about speed skating, but I drew the same conclusions watching these races. Short track takes nearly as much luck as it takes skill.

On the long track, even if you get off to a poor start, you still have an opportunity to make it up.

[Mark_NyB]

Yeah, they make such a production of him tying/passing Bonnie Blair, but make no mention of the fact that five of her six medals were gold. Short track is kind of a ridiculous discipline anyway- so many skaters at once, swinging their arms and foot-long blades around. It's so hard to pass, and has so many crashes- just seems to be way too dependent on luck. Then half the time some judges decide to DQ someone and/or advance some hack who wiped out on the first lap because they were interfered with. I dunno, long track seems like a much better sport to me.

Still not sure why they advanced the canada and DQ'd Celski in that semifinal last night.

[reachmanxx]

Not that I know much about speed skating, but I drew the same conclusions watching these races. Short track takes nearly as much luck as it takes skill.

On the long track, even if you get off to a poor start, you still have an opportunity to make it up.

I'd say there is a skill in avoiding those collisions, though. Look at the Korean/Chinese female short track skaters. They hang back usually for much of the race and then make their move at the right time.

[joeyCanada]

Still not sure why they advanced the canada and DQ'd Celski in that semifinal last night.

How about that women's final with 8 skaters on the short track. Insanity

[Lotyqnag]

I'd say there is a skill in avoiding those collisions, though. Look at the Korean/Chinese female short track skaters. They hang back usually for much of the race and then make their move at the right time.

Ohno sits back and avoids them.

I think the best place to be is either in first or last.

[Adwetyren]

How about that women's final with 8 skaters on the short track. Insanity

Yea, and if something happens in the finals they can't do anything about it.

Not sure anyone cared about this sport until Ohno showed up...the US were just not factors in short track.

[enactolaelant]

I'd say there is a skill in avoiding those collisions, though. Look at the Korean/Chinese female short track skaters. They hang back usually for much of the race and then make their move at the right time.

You mean that Korean chick that boxed out the American chick and almost caused a 6 skater accident if it wasn't for the American swinging out wide and going to the back of the pack with only 6 laps to go?

[11Woxsepmoomo]

You mean that Korean chick that boxed out the American chick and almost caused a 6 skater accident if it wasn't for the American swinging out wide and going to the back of the pack with only 6 laps to go?

Or the Korean who took himself out and his teammate a few days ago to get rid of the Korean sweep. I think that was Ohno's first medal.

[Bgfbukpf]

Is it just me or does this guy seem complacent to come in 2-3rd? I know its tough to medal in any event but for as much hype as this guy has he seems to be underachieving and ok with it.

7 medals is an amazing accomplishment but he seems happy just getting a bronze to add to the total count instead of going for the gold.

If an athlete truly tries his best, why should he/she not be satisfied with whatever result he/she gets? Especially in the Olympics where that should be a big part of the experience for most of the athletes who have no chance to win a medal. Winning any medal is hard considering the sheer quantitiy and quality of the athletes invovled.

[Enrivaanonock]

Or the Korean who took himself out and his teammate a few days ago to get rid of the Korean sweep. I think that was Ohno's first medal.

That's kinda what I was alluding to earlier. I don't know how many times Ohno has been knocked out of an Olympic race, but 3 of his medals he was a beneficiary of circumstances. He would've still medaled one or two of them, just not as high.

Ohno's first ever medal was received when the entire group except the last place guy all crashed. The last place guy finished in first as a result. Ohno crawled across the finish line for a silver.

His first ever gold medal, he actually finished second. The person who finished first was disqualified for supposedly blocking Ohno from a chance to pass. I think most of us have seen enough of these races to see some get DQed when they probably shouldn't have, and others that should've been DQed and weren't. So it works both ways.

Then, of course, the race earlier in this Olympics where Ohno wouldn't even had medaled, sitting in 4th place on the final turn of the final lap.

So, he has shown not only skill, but has had quite a bit of luck in two of his silvers, and one gold.

Not to mention, as someone else mentioned, Bonnie Blair won 6, and 5 of those were golds.

7 medals no matter how you slice it is impressive, but I'm much more impressed with Blair, Heiden, Phelps, and a number of others over Ohno's accomplishments at the Olympics.

[mymnduccete]

That's kinda what I was alluding to earlier. I don't know how many times Ohno has been knocked out of an Olympic race, but 3 of his medals he was a beneficiary of circumstances. He would've still medaled one or two of them, just not as high.

Ohno's first ever medal was received when the entire group except the last place guy all crashed. The last place guy finished in first as a result. Ohno crawled across the finish line for a silver.

His first ever gold medal, he actually finished second. The person who finished first was disqualified for supposedly blocking Ohno from a chance to pass. I think most of us have seen enough of these races to see some get DQed when they probably shouldn't have, and others that should've been DQed and weren't. So it works both ways.

Then, of course, the race earlier in this Olympics where Ohno wouldn't even had medaled, sitting in 4th place on the final turn of the final lap.

So, he has shown not only skill, but has had quite a bit of luck in two of his silvers, and one gold.

Not to mention, as someone else mentioned, Bonnie Blair won 6, and 5 of those were golds.

7 medals no matter how you slice it is impressive, but I'm much more impressed with Blair, Heiden, Phelps, and a number of others over Ohno's accomplishments at the Olympics.

It's part of the game itself that you need skill and luck to finish in the top 3. Every short track skier has benefited and been blasted by the same rules. The best one's put themselves in position to take advantage of the breaks.

[pissmanvd]

It's part of the game itself that you need skill and luck to finish in the top 3. Every short track skier has benefited and been blasted by the same rules. The best one's put themselves in position to take advantage of the breaks.

I think just to get yourself into the finals that many times with the chance to medal, is impressive. Its a very deep, talented group right now.