[JanetMorris]

They can't start the other semi, because the result of the appeal determines which one she is in.

[GuitarLoverBe]

They can't start the other semi, because the result of the appeal determines which one she is in.

Ah, this was the second semi-.

[Xewksghy]

Please get the piste lights down, the poor girl deserves here privacy

[glopomcyte]

The Korean won with no doubt.
1 second passed easily.
There were 2 hits before the last one, which included 2 feints.

This is serious injustice if Heideman wins.

[suilusargaino]

The commentators should be quiet. Telling us about their phone battery and how she was crying does not help the situation.

[Edisesyethisp]

That did it

[Madjostok]

The live feed on teh BBC web-site is here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/...video/p00w2wzb

They're at 5-all, with 20 seconds of sudden death overtime left, at 50mins:00secs on the video bar.

[xresultsearch]

Apart from anything they were allowed to start far too close for my liking, certainly not with arms extended and tips not touching.

I do think that an automatic start on the word play each time would have resulted in a Korean win, but those are the vagaries of the sport.

[Caluabdum]

if they did that, the korean would have lost halfway through.

she never gave ground properly and was never forced to.

[yarita]

Apart from anything they were allowed to start far too close for my liking, certainly not with arms extended and tips not touching.

I do think that an automatic start on the word play each time would have resulted in a Korean win, but those are the vagaries of the sport.

Glad you werent the time keeper then?

[downtowndude]

Agreed, Paul.
Every fencer knows that timing is not (yet) exact. As the rules are, the German won. As the rules should be, the Korean won.
Like I wrote before, give the win to the German and use this as a lesson to improve the sport.

[dmitrynts]

Agreed. Give it to the German, then seriously think about changing how the clock is started. For all three weapons.

no they should not give the german it if the german was anybody she should stand up and agree with the korean's about the timing issuse how can 1 second last over two bout's take it away then put the second back then let it last well over the said second ?

[Adwetyren]

Glad you werent the time keeper then?

I don't think, at this stage, many people would want to have been the time keeper!

Sadly, there isn't going to be a 'fair' outcome, whoever is given to have lost will feel justifiably aggrieved.

I suspect there will be changes about timing issues afoot.

[nuncEtedben]

Would not be happy if I was in that crowd with pre-booked travel arrangements made for going home...

[trowUrillioth]

This timing issue has been a known problem for many years and the FIE (and BF in the Brit champs when we get to the finals) insist on the time-keeper pressing the start button even when there are only a few seconds left on the clock. It asks for human error. I have seen similar situations many times both internationally and at domestic events.

At Opens if a referee is using a timekeeper they always grab hold of the controller when you get to the last few seconds, so why it cannot happen at these events.

The German has to be given the win and the korean has to accept it as the point was within the time on the clock and you have to fence to the halt...

Really harsh, but human error is the problem here which the rules do not cater for very well...

[SasortFkire]

The last 5 secs of time last about 7 to 8 seconds, and the clock runs to zero.

Then the clock gets a second added back on.

[Farson]

crucially the 'extra second' was added prior to the last period of fighting.

BOTH camps accepted it. cannot then be challenged.

that is when the problem occurred.

If you were fencing and you didn't know the timing would you give up the hit to someone who may be wrong?

[ballerturfali]

The clock went to zero after a hit, it did not run to zero. So the President was correct to ask for it to be put back on.

[Feflyinvelf]

This timing issue has been a known problem for many years and the FIE (and BF in the Brit champs when we get to the finals) insist on the time-keeper pressing the start button even when there are only a few seconds left on the clock. It asks for human error. I have seen similar situations many times both internationally and at domestic events.

At Opens if a referee is using a timekeeper they always grab hold of the controller when you get to the last few seconds, so why it cannot happen at these events.

The German has to be given the win and the korean has to accept it as the point was within the time on the clock and you have to fence to the halt...

Really harsh, but human error is the problem here which the rules do not cater for very well...

Yeah, you're right. The only reason why that point was within the time IS because of the human error.
But, this is the Olympics. These players trained hard for the past 4 years just for this.
Would they have to suffer becaues of some human error?
No. That's just outrageous.

Ah, here is the LATEST information.
They did acknowledge that 1 second had passed.
But, now, they're saying that the decision cannot be overturned because it was given by the ref.

What is this?

[LarryG1978]

this is the olympics.

it is ALL about human error