[nizcreare]

Inside your mind, you have an idea. This idea is called 'Goddess'. This idea like every other idea inside your head represents other ideas, and is developed by your mind according to the experiences and sensory input your mind encounters during it's lifespan.
Also, like every other idea inside your head, 'Goddess' influences you to undertake certain actions (including further thought and conceptualization) which lead to further experience and sensory input, which helps you to further develop 'Goddess'.

'Goddess' may or may not be a 'real' thing. The same could be said of those things you 'know' to be real, including yourself.
How do we 'know' a thing to be real? Isn't it because we experience said thing affecting our sensory input? And how is it that thoughts are not input? Are your thoughts 'real'? What about the things you think about? Does thinking about 'Goddess' affect your thoughts and therefore your actions?

Is the thought about Goddess a real thought?
Everything you've ever experienced has absolutely no proof of being anything more than thought.
Descartes problem still stands: You could be dreaming....

Why do Humans put so much import into the difference between thought and reality?

'Goddess' does exist. You can think of Her, and thus She will influence you to action.

[duribass]

the fact that some don't believe in the existence of is proof of non existence, sort of like, the fact that cheating occurs proves that humans are not a monogamous species

[foI3fKWv]

How could I prove to anyone else that god/goddess exists any more than they can prove it to me?

Isn't it something we have to prove to ourselves?

Others can talk about their experiences and that might give us a few road signs to go by, but ultimately we have to drive our own cars.

[WhileKelf]

How could I prove to anyone else that god/goddess exists any more than they can prove it to me?

Isn't it something we have to prove to ourselves?

Others can talk about their experiences and that might give us a few road signs to go by, but ultimately we have to drive our own cars.

word, 'can give you the wings, but can't teach you to fly' comes to mind

[soajerwaradaY]

Others can talk about their experiences and that might give us a few road signs to go by, but ultimately we have to drive our own cars.

Yea, but often there are too many backseat drivers that try and tell us how to live or what to think.

[yespkorg]

As I am a believer and always thought them to be my true parents so I will add my thoughts.

I feel they do let us know everyday in many different ways.

New babies (birth) be that human,animal,plant ,mineral.
Sunsets/sunrises,I feel can be example's.
I think miracle's happen all the time,their handy work in letting us know.

I feel they have helpers as well to help in showing us ,Mother Nature, the sun/moon.
Saints,guardian angles for examples.

Does all that prove anything really depends on the who you ask.

I can understand someone wanting to have a being to thank for the world we live in especially if you live in a particularly pretty part of the world and are in good health. However, nature is not always kind. I have always been overwhelmed by the power of the ocean even when just standing on the shore. There's a lot about living with nature that is a never-ending struggle, our battle with ever-mutating viruses and bacteria for instance.

Do you honestly believe that your prayers to whatever god or goddess you say you believe in will keep you safe and healthy? And some of those old gods wanted animal sacrifices. Do you do that? Or is your belief more the opportunity to dress in robes with flowers in your hair and dance by the light of the moon?

[Loovikeillilen]

And in doing so, you've committed the "sin" you condemn 'religious' folks for, maxx.

Hardly. I am surrounded by human beings everyday. Therefore, it is not the same as assuming the existence of the supernatural for which I see no direct evidence.


Does Sun Walker exist?
Not all of the evidence points in that direction. I What evidence do you have that s/he does not exist? Or, you're probably one of those people who enjoys confronting people by asking them to prove their own existence. I think such exercises only keep people from dealing with the real world. And I think that simply patting people on the head when they say they believe in something supernatural does not show any interest in that person's growth.


In fact, all of the evidence you have for Sun Walker's existence come directly from post brain processing. I have tried to find out what that post brain phrase means without success. So please define it and its source. Google just sends me to some life coaching website. It sounds like some new age pseudo-science. Post means after so post brain would mean after the brain. But all processing goes through the brain. So you appear to be saying that no one should trust their own minds which is precisely what fundamentalists teach. Don't trust your own thoughts, especially if you question what that church teaches. It is probably some evil spirit living inside you. [I can just imagine what the Alien movies did to fundies.]


You could be hallucinating all of this, and you wouldn't (couldn't) know the difference. I don't think my hallucinations would begin and end with my interactions at this website. So I would be hallucinating in other places where it would be noticed by others. I don't live in a shotgun shack in the backwoods.

(The difference between me and a crazy person is that I know I'm crazy) And that's the best evidence you have that you're not crazy. But whatever you're reading may be driving you that way.



Does God/ess exist?

I dunno, do you exist?

Can you prove that, to me? Can you do it in such a way that I have no choice but to believe you? Does that make it fact, or your own personal delusion, shoved into my brain until it comes out my mouth?

"I think, therefore, I might be" I could give you a way to contact people who could vouch for my existence. Interactive programs are pretty good, but I don't think they're that good yet. But the coming of the computer does make a lot of stuff you see on TV suspect when it is presented as news. You have to go with the sources that have a proven track record for honesty and accuracy which leaves Fox news out.

[ballerturfali]

'Why is behavior like talking to invisible people tolerated in religionists while the same behavior will get others committed for hospitalization?'

I don't think it's as easy as that. Many people who talk to the invisible in the name of religion have been committed or condemned.

Who are you referring to? If you are talking about the persecution of religious groups by other religious or political groups, that is a different issue. I am questioning the sanity of all people who talk to invisible people.

[eladiopsislab]

I'm talking about religionists. By the way it was worded, I took it to mean that there was a general hypocrisy regarding people talking to God vs. people who talk to their invisible friend John. When you ask why is it tolerated in religionists and causes others to be institutionalized, I thought I understood the context. If you're simply saying everyone who does it is mad, I understand your meaning a good deal better.

[kimaddison]

no,i think you understood it the first time.

if i talk to a 6 foot blue rabbitt named harvey,then i am delusinal.if i say i'm talking to a diety,then it's called prayer.i defy anyone to prove either exists,but i won't stop someone from talking to whomever or whatever they may believe in,so long as it doesn't interfere with my life.

Having just watched "A Beautiful Mind" again, the comparison is striking. John Nash talked to people who weren't there; he was labeled schizophrenic for those delusions. I don't hear "saints" who had visions labeled schizophrenic. Why is that?

[Gastonleruanich]

None of the above.

I believe everything has a purpose and reason.
Be it birth or death which there are different types.
Cant have one with out the other now can we?
Whats meant to be, WILL BE regardless of what ones beliefs may be.



Never been the flowery type.

And what purpose is there in the birth of a child born without a brainstem that only lives a short while except whatever purpose the parent(s) choose to give it?

[lrUyiva1]

'Why is behavior like talking to invisible people tolerated in religionists while the same behavior will get others committed for hospitalization?'

I don't think it's as easy as that. Many people who talk to the invisible in the name of religion have been committed or condemned.

Who in the past 4 centuries? I think you'll find that the number of skeptics who have been condemned vastly outnumbers the religious who have been condemned by skeptics.

[DeedPatmeda]

...a god/goddess does or doesn't exist? Are we just fooling ourselves into thinking there is some higher being?

It is logically impossible to prove a negative. Put another way, to logically prove something requires the existence of evidence. You cannot prove the existence of the non-existence of evidence. Clear?

[Unrersvar]

It is logically impossible to prove a negative. Put another way, to logically prove something requires the existence of evidence. You cannot prove the existence of the non-existence of evidence. Clear?

Hehehe. You done good!

Peace & Love!

[KJnbceja]

And what purpose is there in the birth of a child born without a brainstem that only lives a short while except whatever purpose the parent(s) choose to give it?

Sometimes life doesn't make those purposes know,and or there are a lot of people who refuse or are in denial to see the purpose/life lesson.

Perhaps the family/parents of the child born with out a brain-stem are the ones that need that lesson.In that short life alot can be learned.

I have said this many times ,unfortunately those lessons/purposes always come with a price and most times the sick are used for life lessons/purpose.

Again,humans don't always get just what the propose/lesson is.

[HilaryNidierer]

Does an dyslexic agnostic with insomnia lay in bed all night, tossing and turning wondeting if there really is a Dog?

Budog.

[Loonerisav]

When one seeks into the depths of ones heart and recognizes the still small voice of peace within then people will make of it what they will. Is it God/Goddess or is just another aspect of ones self?
All I know is that when people reach for that voice then they are more universal and open to each other. Maybe that universal is the voice of God (but I cannot prove it) but people of all cultures and creeds have sort it for years. Some pray, some meditate and some journey to isolated areas or commune with nature to try to commune with that voice inside. Is it a delusion, an aspect of themselves or a God/Goddess? I guess each will make of it what they will. I know there are Atheist Quaker meetings and they also sit in silence to commune with their inner self.
In the end, is it God/Goddess or just a delusion of humanity? I have to wonder, does it really matter what a person calls it, as long as it brings them meaning.
When we get into debates about whether we believe in God/Goddess or not then it again raises a further difficulty as to what does each individual mean by God/Goddess when they say they do not believe or do believe in a God/Goddess?
I prefer to let each individual answer that for themselves and enjoy the wonder.

[Heliosprime]

I have to wonder, does it really matter what a person calls it, as long as it brings them meaning.

I just wanted to repeat this.

Peace & Love!

[Diandaplaipsy]

OK, to be Buddha's advocate here. What if you were to be your own divinity and came to the enlightened realization that eventing you need is within you and there is no need for an outside god/dess? Just had to ask, go ahead now discuss amongst yourselves...

Budog.

[beckercpa]

OK, to be Buddha's advocate here. What if you were to be your own divinity and came to the enlightened realization that eventing you need is within you and there is no need for an outside god/dess? Just had to ask, go ahead now discuss amongst yourselves...

Budog.

That is an understanding that many Taoists hold to, that is, those Taoists who also hold to Buddhist teaching as a suppliment to Taoism.

Peace & Love!