[Ltftujkg]

Ah, but Rake, I didn't say that their God was an opinion. I said that their beliefs are opinions.


Thanks for bringing this one back up Maxx!

[tmobmobfil]

I didn't read all 300, but of the ones I did read they all sound like the logic of a 3 year old. How could anyone take seriously a person who makes statements such as -

COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT

1. If I say something doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t have a cause.
2. I say the universe doesn’t have a cause.
3. Therefore, the universe doesn’t have a cause.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

Sounds like a pretty arrogant, close minded person to me. Actually, they all sound like quite arrogant statements to me... "I define God to be X; I can’t conceive of a perfect God; I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons; I DON’T believe in God! I DON’T believe in God! I don’t, I don’t, I don’t, I DON’T believe in God! Therefore, God doesn’t exist."

I, I, I, I... sounds VERY arrogant to me. How can one sit and say that there is absolute proof one way, or the other of the existence of a god, or gods? To believe that there is no god(s) takes just as much faith as to believe in the existence of god(s). There is absolutely no actual proof one way, or the other.

I'm not going to argue the existence of a higher being with a person who doesn't believe that there is one (Atheism - A person who has a positive belief that no god, or gods exist). Any discussion with a person committed to that position would be futile. How can you argue the existence of a higher being with a person who believes there are none? I'm talking true, hardcore atheists here, not boarder line, or agnostics.

People who are agnostic are sitting on the fence waiting for the jury to come in. People like that have an open mind to the possibility that there might be a god, or gods in existence. You can at least have a discussion of differences in opinion/belief with a person that is open minded. Someone who has a 'positive belief' is completely closed off to any other possibility - and, just as faithful in their belief as a religious fundamentalist. Atheists are fundamentalist in the belief that no god(s) exist. Kind of has some religious overtones, wouldn't you say? However, I could be wrong.

Father Michael

[DuesTyr]

I have a feeling that even if I don't believe in God he still believes in me .

[anenselog]

~ Very cute.
So...
'Life Sans Deity Many either don't believe in God, Goddess or a higher power, others question the likelihood of their existence or doubt the need for any religion.'
Is a fake topic?
You're simply going to make fun of those that don't believe in God?
Or question such?

... God is a representation of a belief system based upon faith.

I have faith in unicorns, so strong it's still not shaken!
{My soul is virginal, so a unicorn will come to me.}

Sorry, don't find this topic funny.
I apologise if I'm offensive.
If I'm completely off, grant me patience, please?

[zoneouddy]

You have known us for some time Qryos, it has never been our way to "make fun" of what others believe. I'm sorry that there has been some misunderstanding.

[rowneigerie]

Technically, I am an atheist. I don't feel a guiding force of any kind exists. That's all that atheist means.

However, I do feel that everything/ being is interconnected and mysterious/ mystical. Also that every being and thing in the cosmos is on an equal level, that everything guides/ helps everything. I suppose there is no way to prove this either

I found this list quite funny. I've heard (and at times participated in, with my atheist perspective) this kind of debating before. It always seems to go round and round in circles. Ah, the memories

Reminds me of thoughts that I've had about afterlife. Always wondered about whether or not what happens after we die is whatever we feel happens after we die while we are still alive.

These kinds of debates aren't important to me anymore. What is important to me is that people treat each other, themselves and what surrounds them with love, respect, kindness and tolerance. Experience and spread as little suffering as possible. The way to get there is different for everyone. Fine by me.

Sushi Crow

[HelenTay]

I believe that the author who assembled the list found both comedy and seriuousness in it. It was an attempt to collect all of the reasons that they had seen people use. I would not ever have thought that there could be so many. (although I think they were really stretching when some of the items were included as "reasons" though.)

It is, and has always been, acceptable here for Atheists and Agnostics to speak their mind about their beliefs. (within Board rules of course! LOL) ULC ordains both, but that's not necessarily the reason. Nonbelief and disbelief are all a part of religion and spirituality too, sort of the flipside to the coin. As was mentioned in the opening topic here, we'd had an Atheist/Agnostic forum before (I was the Mod.) but it was seldom used. We thought we'd give it a try again.

[Loovikeillilen]

One must remember: The IMPORTANT arguement is not with others, it is with yourself.
In other words, it matters not if you believe, it only matters if I believe.

[6ZCo3xuK]

The "reason" seem nothing more than an excercise in subjectivity. Doesnt impress me much.

[Qrhzbadu]

Very true. And, as was stated on the list, it could have to do with one's financial state and age at the time at least as far as what appears on the surface:

ARGUMENT FROM COLLEGE FUNDING (usable by parents only)

1. You don’t believe in God.
2. If I ever find out that you do believe in God, you won't get any money for college!
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

[Speareerfug]

hahahahahahahahaha.....thats great. I think my grandmother tried to use that as an arguement for God. I guess it's a good thing I didn't go to college...hahahahahaha

[Qutlsilh]

Are they all valid arguments? Do you care if they are? Can you disprove them all and always arrive at the conclusion that God exists?

These are not valid arguments. This is nothing more then a mockery of atheists.

[Elissetecausa]

They are partly done in mockery. The author claims that they are reasons used at the forum at Internet Infidels. I think the reasons were close to what different people used at different times and the mockery, or tongue in cheek, comes when he adds his interpretation of them. (I'm guessing the author is either an agnostic or an atheist.) The same person assembled the reasons why God does exist too.

[Domovoy]

God doesn't exist 'cause the Easter Bunny told me so!

[adactthrd]

Can they be right? The first part:


Over Three Hundred Disproofs of God’s Existence

(adapted from Atheists of Silicon Valley (aka Godless Geeks) which they claim was in turn adapted from a forum on the Internet Infidels)

by J. H.
TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. If God doesn’t exist, then if reason exists, then God doesn’t exist.
3. Reason exists.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT

1. If I say something doesn’t have a cause, it doesn’t have a cause.
2. I say the universe doesn’t have a cause.
3. Therefore, the universe doesn’t have a cause.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)

1. I define God to be X.
2. Since I cannot conceive of X, X must not exist.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)

1. I can’t conceive of a perfect God.
2. One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. God, if existing, is either necessary or unnecessary.
3. God is not necessary, therefore God must be unnecessary.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT

1. Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
2. Evolution (aka random chance) is a good enough explanation for me how they became so complex.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY (aka TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT II)

1. Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
2. Evolution (aka random chance) is a good enough explanation for me how they became so beautiful.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF MIRACLES (I)

1. My aunt had cancer.
2. The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
3. My aunt prayed to God, but she died from her cancer anyway.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

MORAL ARGUMENT (I)

1. Person X, a well-known theist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

MORAL ARGUMENT (II)

1. In my younger days I thought I was religious.
2. Now I’m a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, atheist jerk.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM CREATION VS EVOLUTION

1. If evolution is true, then creationism is false, and therefore God doesn’t exist.
2. Creation can’t be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it and am not at all interested in studying it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF FEAR

1. If God exists then I’m going to Hell.
2. I’m not afraid of Hell. New Jersey is much worse.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE

1. [Arbitrary passage from OT]
2. [Arbitrary passage from NT]
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE

1. Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid theists -- it's too complicated for you to understand. God doesn’t exist whether you like it or not.
2. Therefore, doesn’t God exist.

ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE

1. Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys -- you're obviously very well read. But I read the Skeptics Annotated Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God exists. I don’t feel him in my heart, and you are lying when you say you can feel him and see him working in your life. John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth?" That just proves what a evil, sadistic loser your God is.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF BELIEF

1. If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
2. I don’t believe in God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION

1. See my fist?
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

PARENTAL ARGUMENT

1. My mommy and daddy told me that God doesn’t exist.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS

1. Millions and millions of people don’t believe in God.
2. They can't all be wrong, can they?
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY (aka THE MOST COMMON ATHEIST ARGUMENT)

1. B---s---!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM ECONOMY

1. God doesn’t exist, you bastards!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

BOATWRIGHT'S ARGUMENT

1. Ha ha ha.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INSANITY

1. I forgot to take my meds.
2. Therefore, THERE IS NO GOD!!
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY

1. Some say that Eric Clapton is God, but I hate his music.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY

1. There is a website that successfully argues for the non-existence of God.
2. Here is the URL.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY

1. Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
2. No one has ever refuted 1.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM AMERICAN EVANGELISM

1. Telling people that God exists makes some televangelists filthy rich.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE

1. The Christian God doesn’t exist.
2. Therefore, all worldviews which assume the Christian God's existence are false and incomprehensible.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (I)

1. Christians are blind to reason, intelligence and logic.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)

1. God is hate.
2. Hate isn’t blind.
3. Ray Charles is blind.
4. Therefore, Ray Charles isn’t God.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FALLIBILITY

1. Human reasoning is inherently flawed.
2. Therefore, there is no reasonable way to challenge a proposition.
3. I propose that God doesn’t exist.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS

1. F--- you.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MANIFESTATIONS

1. People who see images of bearded faces or virgins in things like tortillas are fruitcakes and represent the whole of theism.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM KITCHEN APPLIANCES

1. My toaster isn’t God.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM COMPLETE DEVASTATION

1. A plane crashed killing all 143 passengers and crew.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM POSSIBLE WORLDS

1. If things had been different, then things would be different.
2. That would be good.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SHEER WILL

1. I DON’T believe in God! I DON’T believe in God! I don’t I don’t I don’t I DON’T believe in God!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM NONBELIEF

1. The majority of the world's population are nonbelievers in Christianity.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM POST-DEATH EXPERIENCE

1. Person X died an theist.
2. He now realizes his mistake.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. If you believe in him, people will always laugh at you.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INCOHERENT BABBLE

1. See that person spazzing on the church floor babbling incoherently?
2. That represents theism as a whole.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

[KhJOHbTM]

The next set:

ARGUMENT FROM THE HUMAN SPIRIT

1. The human spirit doesn’t exist.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

DONAHUE'S ARGUMENT

1. Check out this video segment.
2. Now how can anyone watch that and believe in God?
3. Is the caller there?
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ANTI-CALVINISTIC ARGUMENT

1. If God exists, then unbelievers will be tortured forever.
2. I don’t like that idea.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM CROCKERY

1. Pots can give orders to the potter as long as the pots think they are morally superior somehow.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PRODUCT EVOLUTION

1. Barbie dolls evolved.
2. If Barbie dolls evolved, then so did plants and animals.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PAROCHIALISM

1. God is supposedly everywhere.
2. I haven’t personally seen God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM UPPERCASE ASSERTION

1. GOD DOESN’T EXIST! GET USED TO IT!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INFINITE REGRESS

1. Ask theists how the universe came to be.
2. Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this.
3. Continue process until the theist admits he doesn't know the answer to one of your questions.
4. You win!
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY

1. How could God exist, you bozo?
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE OF HISTORY

1. The Bible is completely false.
2. Therefore, the Bible is toilet paper.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM RESURRECTION

1. If God exists, then he would be bringing people who have been decapitated back to life.
2. No one who has been decapitated has been brought back to life.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM BIOGENESIS

1. Where did life come from, dummy?
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM STEADFAST ATHEISM

1. A lot of really cool people didn’t believe in God their entire lives.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LONELINESS

1. Christians say that Jesus is their best friend.
2. I'm lonely, but Jesus hasn’t showed up.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MONTY PYTHONISH ARGUMENTATION (aka ARGUMENT FROM CONTRADICTON aka ARGUMENT FROM THE AUTOMATIC GAINSAYING OF ANYTHING THE OTHER PERSON SAYS)

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. [Theist's counterargument]
3. No he doesn’t.
4. [Theist's counterargument]
5. No he doesn’t!
6. [Theist's counterargument]
7. NO HE DOESN’T!!!
8. [Theist gives up and goes home]
9. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM CREATIVE INTERPRETATION

1. Here’s what some theists said about what God is: (a) The feeling you have when you look at a newborn baby. (b) The love of a mother for her child. (c) Humankind's potential to overcome their difficulties. (d) How I feel when I look at a sunset. (e) The taste of ice cream on a hot day.
2. These are all silly and superficial.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INSECURITY

1. We have gone to absolutely berserk lengths to establish that theists are laughable morons.
2. Actually, we did so in the hopes of curing our own insecurities about atheism -- but there's no chance in hell we'll ever admit that.
3. Therefore, theists are laughable morons.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF SUPERIORITY

1. If God exists, then Christians are superior beings, since they are "special" in a cosmic sense.
2. But Christians aren’t superior. They’re the same as everyone else.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MORAL STANDARDS

1. There are no absolute moral standards because God doesn’t exist.
2. Theists say that there are absolute moral standards.
3. But that's only because they want to condemn everyone (especially atheists) but themselves as sinners.
4. Therefore, there are no absolute moral standards.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM HUMAN NECESSITY

1. Theists say that everyone needs God.
2. Atheists say that they don’t need God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (I)

1. Intellectually, I know that the existence of God is possible, or very probable.
2. But I must put on the appearance of being cool and intellectual in front of my atheist peers.
3. Therefore, I must pretend that 1 is false.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM DENYING THE BODY

1. Theists like to think that they can control their "sinful" desires.
2. But they're theists, so they can't.
3. Therefore, some theists feel the need to take no enjoyment in anything because they are always worrying about committing sin.
4. This just goes to show how their belief in God is damaging to their lives.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM HATE

1. Some theists hate atheists and atheism.
2. That's because they believe in God.
3. Pathetic, aren't they?
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SCIENTISTS WHO ARE THEISTS

1. A certain scientist says that God does exist.
2. But God doesn’t exist.
3. Therefore, he cannot be accepted as an expert on the matter, because he is wrong.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EVIL SPIRITS

1. I've never had contact with evil spirits.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (II)

1. Theists say that God does exist.
2. But they only say that because they want to look holy and righteous in front of their peers.
3. They don't fool me!
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM HOVIND'S CHALLENGE

1. Kent Hovind offers $250,000 (which may or may not exist) to anyone who can demonstrate evolution (defined as a natural, acausal origin of the universe) to a reasonable doubt (meaning with 100% certainty, allowing for no other possibilities whatsoever) in front of a neutral committee (handpicked by Hovind himself) and according to certain criteria (carefully worded so as to rule out any possibility whatsoever of the challenge ever being met).
2. Atheists have dismissed this challenge as false, illogical, ignorant or otherwise bogus.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INSANITY

1. No sane person could have thought up Christianity.
2. Therefore, it was thought up by an insane person or persons.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

[nasxbrtyol]

The next:

ARGUMENT FROM EXHAUSTION (abridged)

1. Do you agree with the utterly trivial proposition X?
2. Theist: of course.
3. How about the slightly modified proposition X'?
4. Theist: Um, no, not really.
5. Good. Since we agree, how about Y? Is that true?
6. Theist: No! And I didn't agree with X'!
7. With the truths of these clearly established, surely you agree that Z is true as well?
8. Theist: No. So far I have only agreed with X! Where is this going, anyway?
9. I'm glad we all agree.....
10. [Atheist goes on and on and on...]
11. So now we have used propositions X, X', Y, Y', Z, Z', P, P', Q and Q' to arrive at the obviously valid point R. Agreed?
12. Theist: Like I said, so far I've only agreed with X. Where is this going?
13. [Atheist continues to go on and on and on...]
14. So we now conclude from this that propositions L'', L''' and J'' are true. Agreed?
15. I HAVEN'T AGREED WITH ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID SINCE X! WHERE IS THIS GOING!?
16. [Still going...]
17. ...and it follows that proposition HRV, SHQ'' and BTU' are all obviously valid. Agreed?
18. [Theist either faints from overwork or leaves in disgust]
19. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ALT.ATHEISM ARGUMENT (aka ARGUMENT FROM GENERAL INQUIRY)

1. Question for theist population: [apparently random question]
2. Your answer is wrong.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PLAGERISM

1. I have written the following to demonstrate the non-existence of God.
2. [Insert plagerized text of someone else’s article]
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM USE OF THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN

1. When it comes to Christians, smearing their reputation is a higher calling than truth.
2. Christians are all dirty, stinking liars.
3. Therefore, God does not exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LIMITED VOCABULARY

1. You don’t understand all the big words I use.
2. Therefore, I cannot possibly expect you to understand my refutation of your position.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SELECTIVE MEMORY

1. [Atheist asks "stumper" question]
2. [Christian answers question]
3. [A lapse of time]
4. [Atheist repeats question]
5. [Christian repeats answer]
6. [A lapse of time]
7. [Atheist repeats question]
8. [Christian repeats answer]
9. [A lapse of time]
10. Christian, you never answered my question.
11. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM DIVINE ECONOMICS

1. Many Christian nations are poor or currently suffering poor economies.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL SANITY

1. I've never had any experiences that can be explained only from the presumption that God exists.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INSTITUTIONAL LONGETIVITY

1. Atheism has been around for a long time.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INEVITABILITY

1. I have proof that God doesn’t exist.
2. I won't bother to tell you what it is because, being theists, you would be hostile to the conclusion anyway.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM "THE MATRIX"

1. We cannot prove that we don't live in a Matrix-like world.
2. Therefore we cannot know reality.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SUBJECTIVITY

1. Everything is subjective.
2. No subjective proof can be superior to any other subjective proof.
3. Based upon my subjective opinion, your opinion, that nothing is subjective then, perforce, God isn’t subjective, is false.
4. Therefore, God (objectively) doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM POSTMODERNISM

1. I'm going to prove to you that God doesn’t exist.
2. [Insert any of the other arguments on this page in here]
3. [Theist refutes argument]
4. I cannot disprove God anymore than anyone of us can disprove we really exist in a tangible world.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exists.

META-DISPROOF

1. This is a disproof of God's existence.
2. If the reader finishes reading this disproof, the non-existence of God will be proven to him/her.
3. If the non-existence of God is proven, then God doesn’t exist.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

DISPROOF BY ANECDOTE

1. Those who believe in God say they can see Him.
2. If God exists, then He must be seen by everyone.
3. I haven’t seen God.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL HISTORY

1. Some modern historians think that there probably wasn’t somebody named Jesus, maybe.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM DEMONS

1. Some people say that demons were tap-dancing on their roof one day and that prayer made them go away.
2. Therefore, these people are insane.
3. Also, God doesn’t exist.

SAM GIBSON’S... ER... CYGNUS’ ARGUMENT (aka ARGUMENT FROM PI)

1. This verse from the Bible proves that God says pi = 3.
2. I asked some online math experts about this, but they didn’t support me.
3. So I twisted their responses to make it appear that they supported me.
4. Then I made sure to kick people out of my forums and threatened to post their personal information because they tried to show everyone that the math experts didn’t support me, but I said it’s because they didn’t stop using my real name (even though it’s found about a dozen times on my website).
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MULTIPLICITY

1. I have a large number of arguments against God.
2. One of them is probably true.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FORTUITOUS COINCIDENCE

1. Theists often show the astronomical odds of something happening.
2. I claim that their odds are false and misrepresentative, and also make reference to the Many Worlds Theory, which I completely believe in even though there is no physical evidence for it nor will evidence ever be found.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM DAVID BLAINE

1. If David Blaine does real magic, then God doesn’t exist.
2. It looked real on his TV special.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MYSTERIOUS USE OF PREPOSITIONS

1. It is impossible to prove God with your puny theist intellect.
2. I’ll take that puzzled look on your face as proof that I am right.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM TEEN ATHEISM MOVEMENT

1. Theism totally sucks, dude, and if you would pretend that Marilyn Manson is a good band, you would realize that.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SPEAKING IN TOUNGES

1. Some theists who I see as representing the whole of theism spontaneously speak some jibberish that they claim is some foreign language or another.
2. But no one can understand what they are saying.
3. The only explanation is that they are full of it.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EUROPEAN HISTORY

1. Many prominent thinkers in pre-modern Europe didn’t believe in God.
2. Let’s just forget about those who did.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN

1. If there is a designer, then God must exist.
2. If I find a watch in a forest, there must be a designer.
3. [Atheist ignores the watch in forest]
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM (GENERAL) OFFENSE

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. [Theist makes counterarguments]
3. You know what? I am offended.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM OFFENSE TO PRAYER

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. [Theist makes counterarguments and prays for atheist]
3. Take your prayers and shove ‘em where the sun don’t shine.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM AGNOSTICISM

1. I don't know and you don't know either.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist

ARGUMENT FROM LOVE

1. Have you ever fallen in love?
2. [Theist answers, "of course!!"]
3. So what is the cause of love? Evolution is a good enough explanation for me and love is nothing but a chemical reaction in the brain, so it cannot have anything to do with God?
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM IDENTITY (aka PC ARGUMENT)

1. Not believing in God is a central part of my identity.
2. You don't mean to deny my identity do you?
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FORMATTING

1. Behold, foolish theists, I present you with an incontrovertible proof of the non-existence of God.
2. [Atheist posts 10,000 word document without a single paragraph break]
3. [Theists’ eyes implode]
4. I see that nobody can refute 2.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM NON-CONFRONTATION

1. I am not here to argue with you theists.
2. But come on, God obviously doesn’t exist.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EXODUS

1. If the Exodus story has any basis in historical fact, then God exists.
2. I haven’t seen or accepted any evidence that it is.
3. This means the Exodus story is false.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

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The next:

ARGUMENT FROM MARTYRDOM

1. The apostles definitely would have willingly died for something they knew wasn't true because they were trying to overthrow governments and gain power.
2. There are martyrs outside Christendom who did the same thing.
3. Obviously those examples prove Christian martyrdom was about gaining power.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM TINKERBELL

1. I really want God to be fake.
2. If you wish for something really hard, it'll come true.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF PROOF

1. You can't prove God exists!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (I)

1. I once experienced something I can't explain.
2. I can come up with several possible, natural explanations which do not fit the facts, but make me feel comfortable.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (II)

1. I have never experienced feelings of God's presence in my mind.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM NEUROSCIENCE

1. Scientists say a portion of our brain may be responsible for mystical experiences.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EYEWITNESS (I)

1. You weren't there to witness the Creation/the Flood/the Exodus/the Crucifixion/the Resurrection/etc.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EYEWITNESS (II) (sometimes follows or combined with the previous disproof)

1. Someone wrote the Creation story in the Bible.
2. That someone obviously wasn’t an eyewitness to the described events because they are completely unbelievable (and I think there are two very different Creation accounts in Genesis 1 and 2).
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EYEWITNESS (III)

1. No one's ever seen God.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM HALF A WING

1. Half of a wing may be useless, but that just means evolution is real and was working properly!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PREFERRED ANCESTRY

1. I don't want to be created by God.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FOOLISHNESS

1. The bible says atheists are fools.
2. I don't like being called names.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FARRELL TILL

1. Farrell Till says God does not exist.
2. Therefore, God doesn't exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FARRELL TILL (II)

1. If God exists, he would strike Farrell Till dead.
2. Farrell Till is still alive.
3. Therefore, God doesn't exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PIG'S TEETH

1. Some scientists once thought a tooth was from an "ape-man."
2. Later scientists discovered it was a pig's tooth.
3. That’s how science works and it doesn’t disprove the evolution of man from "ape-men."
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION

1. Someone made fun of my atheism.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM JESUS SAID STUFF

1. Jesus said some stuff.
2. I think that a lot of the stuff he said was horrible and unloving.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PERCEIVED LACK OF DIFFERENCES

1. I say that the Christian God isn’t any different than the gods of other religions.
2. Therefore, the Christian God doesn’t exist.

THE ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN IMMORALITY (although it could probably be adapted to just about any belief or non-belief)

1. Somewhere, someone who called himself or herself a Christian did something evil.
2. This person was probably not lying.
3. Therefore, this person was a Christian.
4. Therefore, Christians do evil things.
5. Therefore, Christians are not moral.
6. Christians believe in the Bible.
7. Therefore, the Bible is not moral.
8. The Bible is God's word. It says so.
9. Therefore, God is not moral.
10. (We are just ignoring all the nice things that Christians have done in the past and present, it's hard to trust history and the news anyway.)
11. An immoral God would be really evil.
12. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

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More reasons:

THE ARGUMENT FROM CRAZINESS

1. I would have to go crazy to believe in God.
2. I am not crazy.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist

ARGUMENT FROM CHOCOLATE

1. Some shallow theists say that chocolate is God's gift to humanity.
2. I hate chocolate.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (II)

1. Jesus said that people would persecute Christians.
2. I say they aren’t and never have been.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM WWJD

1. Some Christians have the "What Would Jesus Do?" T-shirt, bracelet, baseball hat, and shoelaces.
2. Some don’t wear them in public.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (III)

1. You theists are mean!
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTEREST

1. If God really does exist then theists wouldn’t have to spend so much time talking about him.
2. Theists constantly talk about God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM RELIABLE SENSES

1. You assume that your senses are reliable even though you can’t prove it.
2. That means I get to assume anything I want.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORITY

1. [Atheist posts argument]
2. [Christian refutes argument]
3. Christian, you obviously didn’t understand my argument.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM CATCH-PHRASE

1. There are no atheists in foxholes.
2. [Atheist points out atheists who claim to have been atheists while in foxholes]
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exists.

ARGUMENT FROM ARBITRARY IMPROBABILITY

1. We shouldn’t believe what probably isn’t true.
2. I have arbitrarily assigned the proposition "God exists" a probability of 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 01%.
3. That probability came from my rear end, which I know assigns extremely accurate probabilities to propositions concerning the non-existence of God.
4. So God probably doesn’t exists.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM FREE GIFT

1. If some guy came up to you on the street and offered you a billion dollars for nothing in return, would you take the money or deny his existence?
2. (This is an extremely poor analogy of Christ, but we’ll ignore that point.)
3. No one has ever offered me a billion dollars.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM CHARITY

1. Atheists don’t build hospitals.
2. [Atheist points out Bill Gates and Ted Turner, who donate millions of dollars to charity]
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SERIOUS ASSERTION

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. No, seriously.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM POSITIVE OUTCOME

1. Even if God did exist, it would be better if people believed He didn’t.
2. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE

1. I believe that if God exists, there will be physical evidence for his existence.
2. There is no physical evidence for the existence of God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EVIDENCE (II)

1. God, if you exist, you’ll give me a million dollars, a Playstation 2 with all the games, and a girlfriend.
2. [Nothing happens]
3. [Atheist waits and might even repeat demand]
4. [Nothing happens]
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM IDIOCY

1. I am an idiot.
2. Even an idiot can see that God doesn’t exist.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM TERRORISM (I)

1. Terrorists destroyed the WTC, killing thousands.
2. One piece of the rubble sort of looks like a cross.
3. God obviously was more interested in making this cross than saving lives.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM TERRORISM (II)

1. A plane was hijacked by terrorists.
2. The passengers prayed and attacked the terrorists.
3. The plane crashed into a field, killing all aboard.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM TERRORISM (III)

1. September 11th was really, really bad.
2. We have bad things happen to us all the time.
3. Therefore, September 11th wasn’t a punishment for something we did.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MASS MURDER

1. Stalin was an atheist.
2. He murdered millions of people.
3. I say that his murderousness didn’t stem from atheism.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM TORNADOS

1. A large tornado hit Anytown, USA.
2. The tornado destroyed churches.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SPAGHETTI

1. A few people saw something weird in a bowl of spaghetti.
2. Some Catholics believe that it is the Virgin Mary.
3. They’re obviously kooks.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MONEY

1. All U.S. currency contains the motto "In God We Trust."
2. This was obviously done to force people to believe in theism.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

1. The Pledge clearly states that America is "one nation, under God."
2. This was obviously done to force people to believe in theism.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

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And more:

ARGUMENT FROM THE FOUNDING FATHERS (I)

1. A very small number of America's Founding Fathers wrote critically about Christianity and the Bible.
2. These Founding Fathers were really, really smart.
3. Accordingly, Christianity and the Bible must be false.
4. Christianity and the Bible say that God exists.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM THE FOUNDING FATHERS (II)

1. The Declaration of Independence includes the words "God" and "Creator".
2. This was written by a deist who didn’t believe in the Christian God!
3. Therefore this isn’t a Christian Nation.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM PAGAN EGYPT

1. When the Jews came to Egypt (not that I believe they do, since the Bible is false and there is no evidence they ever did), it was a pagan nation, ruled by a pagan Pharoah.
2. If God really existed, the Jews would have been able to convert the entire country (except that they were never there to begin with).
3. The Jews obviously weren’t able to change anything because Egypt remained a pagan nation with a pagan ruler after the Exodus (which never happened).
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM STORY PLOTS

1. The bible has lots of books written by lots of authors over a long period of time.
2. Despite centuries of vigorous apologetics, theists haven’t been able to forge a coherent plot for the whole bible that I can understand.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LIKE OTHER RELIGIONS (I) (aka ARGUMENT FROM COPYCATTING aka ARGUMENT FROM STRETCHING THE TRUTH TO THE LIMIT)

1. The Bible said Jesus was born of a virgin, died for our sins and is the light of the world.
2. [Atheist takes primary figures from some other religions, stretches the truth, and makes them fit what the Bible says about Jesus.]
3. Therefore, the Christian God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM LIKE OTHER RELIGIONS (II) (aka ARGUMENT FROM COPYCATTING II aka ARGUMENT FROM STRETCHING THE TRUTH TO THE LIMIT II)

1. The Bible said Jesus rose from the dead.
2. [Atheist takes primary figures from some other religions, stretches the truth, and makes them fit what the Bible says about Jesus.]
3. Therefore, the Christian God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM BRUTE FORCE

1. [Atheist tears Jesus Fish off car, breaks it in thirds, sticks it to driver's side window.]
2. Therefore, Creationism is wrong.
3. Therefore, the theory of evolution is right.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EXODUS (II)

1. There is little archaeological evidence for the events in Exodus.
2. There is little archaeological evidence for a lot of ancient people, places and events, yet they are still accepted as fact.
3. But I can’t believe the Exodus actually happened.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL PROPHECY

1. The book of Daniel made some prophecies.
2. The prophecy was later fulfilled by other records in the Book of Daniel.
3. The prophecy obviously was written after the fact!
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM SHAME

1. The Bible showed a group of people performing embarassing actions.
2. It must be false if the book describes negative events because God would never let people he favors do those things.
3. The Bible isn’t describing historical events.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EQUAL VALUE (aka PC ARGUMENT II)

1. Evolution and the scientific worldview is a worldview. Similarly, the biblical worldview is a worldview.
2. You are not discriminating against our worldview are you?
3. The scientific worldview is as good as the biblical worldview.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MODERATION (often employed by liberals)

1. The Creationist side occupies an extreme side of the spectrum.
2. Similarly, the atheist side occupies another extreme side of the spectrum.
3. The liberals are in between.
4. Therefore, the liberal position on God is the most correct.
5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM JACK CHICK

1. I have all these stupid Jesus comics.
2. Those comics sure didn’t convince me!
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM EVIDENTIAL ASSERTION

1. God doesn’t exist.
2. Therefore all physical evidence (fossil record, etc.) must show this.
3. Therefore it does.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM MEANNESS

1. If God did exist, it would be mean of him to make me believe he didn’t!
2. The Bible portrays God as mean.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM WE ALL HAVE FAITH

1. We all believe things.
2. But belief isn’t faith.
3. My belief that the sun will rise tomorrow morning is very different from your faith in the existence of God.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM COOLNESS

1. I’m really cool.
2. Cool people don’t believe in God.
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM WTC (II)

1. Terrorists destroyed the WTC, killing thousands.
2. An intact Bible was found in the ruins.
3. No, wait, it turns out it was a dictionary.
4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

ARGUMENT FROM COLLEGE FUNDING (usable by parents only)

1. You don’t believe in God.
2. If I ever find out that you do believe in God, you won't get any money for college!
3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.