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01-14-2010, 03:23 AM | #21 |
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No, I think you are delusional and are repeating a slander of almost unbelievable callousness and ignorance. You should be ashamed for even suggesting such a thing. If you are joking and trolling, it is extreme bad taste. If you are serious, then you are simply unworthy of engaging in reasonable discussion and you disgust me. Tell me, do you know what the colors in the Haitian flag symbolize? You don't know? Since they were a French colony, they naturally were familiar with the French blue, white and red tricolor. After they murdered all the white French people in Haiti (including many women and children, some of whom were sold into slavery), they decided to create the new Haitian flag, by leaving in the red and blue bars (to symbolize the union of mixed race and blacks to overthrow and kill whites), and they took the white bar out to symbolize the removal (by murder) of whites from Haiti. |
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01-14-2010, 03:38 AM | #22 |
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You really need to study the history of Haiti if you think what I'm saying is wrong or evil. I'm just stating the truth. |
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01-14-2010, 03:42 AM | #23 |
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I don't know much about Haitian history, but if I had to escape slavery via revolt, I don't think I would be favorably inclined toward the people who had enslaved me.
And, according to the article you posted, the 'pact with the devil' was signed in 1791 for 200 years. It should have expired in 1991. Why is the country being punished with an earthquake now? And what about the earthquake in Eureka, CA this week? Are Eurekans also in chaoots with Satan? |
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01-14-2010, 04:08 AM | #24 |
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01-14-2010, 04:11 AM | #25 |
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Pat is not long for this world. God will send him home soon, when it's time.
I can't wait to celebrate at a gay bar the second the wires announce his obit. Getting back to the nutball known as Pat Robertson, not suprising the man who blame women and gays for 9/11. |
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01-14-2010, 04:40 AM | #26 |
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01-14-2010, 06:31 AM | #28 |
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Nothing screams heaven on earth then slaves and death of the natives. What a paradise must had been!
Funny thing is, it was a jewel when the French ran the place. Look at it ever since. |
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01-14-2010, 06:38 AM | #29 |
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01-14-2010, 05:52 PM | #30 |
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It's not a puzzle at all. |
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01-14-2010, 06:08 PM | #31 |
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Here is a somewhat more coherent historical analysis of Haiti's considerable problems, written back in May by an actual history-type person:
Haiti: the land where children eat mud - Times Online Here's the crux of it: The appalling state of the country is a direct result of having offended a quite different celestial authority — the French. France gained the western third of the island of Hispaniola — the territory that is now Haiti — in 1697. It planted sugar and coffee, supported by an unprecedented increase in the importation of African slaves. Economically, the result was a success, but life as a slave was intolerable. Living conditions were squalid, disease was rife, and beatings and abuses were universal. The slaves’ life expectancy was 21 years. After a dramatic slave uprising that shook the western world, and 12 years of war, Haiti finally defeated Napoleon’s forces in 1804 and declared independence. But France demanded reparations: 150m francs, in gold. For Haiti, this debt did not signify the beginning of freedom, but the end of hope. Even after it was reduced to 60m francs in the 1830s, it was still far more than the war-ravaged country could afford. Haiti was the only country in which the ex-slaves themselves were expected to pay a foreign government for their liberty. By 1900, it was spending 80% of its national budget on repayments. In order to manage the original reparations, further loans were taken out — mostly from the United States, Germany and France. Instead of developing its potential, this deformed state produced a parade of nefarious leaders, most of whom gave up the insurmountable task of trying to fix the country and looted it instead. In 1947, Haiti finally paid off the original reparations, plus interest. Doing so left it destitute, corrupt, disastrously lacking in investment and politically volatile. Haiti was trapped in a downward spiral, from which it is still impossible to escape. It remains hopelessly in debt to this day. |
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01-14-2010, 06:24 PM | #32 |
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01-14-2010, 07:06 PM | #33 |
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01-14-2010, 08:27 PM | #34 |
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CBN.com – VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., January 13, 2010 -- On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.
Chris Roslan Spokesman for CBN His backpeddling is almost more embarassing than his initial gaffe! link |
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01-14-2010, 09:01 PM | #36 |
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Not to get too far off topic, but it actually was quite a wealthy colony at the time due to trade in coffee, sugar, and indigo. Some economists believe it was the wealthiest place in the Americas in the late 18th century. How it came to be and has remained so poor, even relative to other Caribbean nations, is a bit of a puzzle. Part of the answer might be that after the slave revolt, the US and other nations isolated Haiti politically and didn't trade with them. |
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01-14-2010, 09:03 PM | #37 |
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A colony that supplies 50% of a product is going to benefit to a very small degree regardless of its ability to meet demand. The market was controlled by the French not the colony.
This account of Haiti as a paradise is like a certain island called Greenland becuse itso green. Also, Annapolis MD was called the Paris of America. No, I don't time travel but I do study history, and always have. |
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01-14-2010, 09:54 PM | #40 |
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