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Old 12-16-2009, 11:55 PM   #21
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Animals using tools that unpossible!!!

YouTube - Nature's tools! How birds use them - David Attenborough - BBC wildlife
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:44 AM   #22
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Yes, but could they invent the Fleshlight? I think not.

Clear proof of God.
Evolution in action.
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:34 AM   #23
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I rephrase your wording --it reflects ongoing surprise at how wrong evolutionists were in assuming that simple-life ooze could reflect such intelligence—a pseudo-scientific assumption that has been remarkably resistant to true scientific evidence to the contrary.
But you are wrong, as usual. Considerable scientific study has gone into octopi and teuthids, which you will find on the menu at Dimitri's as Polvo and Calamari respectively. In addition to being damned good eating, they are representatives of the Cephalopod Mollusks, a group that has been around since the Late Cambrian Era, or about 500 million years longer than we have.

Not surprisingly, they have the most developed nervous systems of any invertebrates--on a par, in fact with many vertebrates, including, apparently, many creationists. However, they are quite intelligent.

Such creatures could not have evolved from ooze;
So YOU say. We have been asking for evidence for more than a year, but you have not been able to provide any. We can assume therefore that no evidence exists, or you would have been able to provide it.

Fact is, they DID evolve from earlier life forms. There is evidence of this in their body plan and their genetic makeup.

...they are marvelously designed.
...by their environment, by natural selection, and to an large extent, by themselves.

It would be idiotic to enter an art museum and declare that all the works on the walls showed no intelligence—how much more a walk through a forest or garden of living art!
You are after all, the expert on idiotic behavior... For example, your argument falls flat on its face because art is art and animals are animals; they are not the same.

Gosh...Humber owned again! What are the odds? LOL
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:44 AM   #24
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Notice how the sled casts a shadow, but the squid does not! Life that appears opaque, but passes every bit of light! Who could deny this marvelous creature is the result of the design of God, the father of Creator Christ!
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Old 12-17-2009, 02:57 AM   #25
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Notice how the sled casts a shadow, but the squid does not! Life that appears opaque, but passes every bit of light! Who could deny this marvelous creature is the result of the design of God, the father of Creator Christ!
Yes.

Also notice how this marvelous creature has manipulated the young human - she carts him around with a smile on her face. He seems to thrive on our side of the pond as well. Wow.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:09 AM   #26
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Also notice how this marvelous creature has manipulated the young human - she carts him around with a smile on her face. He seems to thrive on our side of the pond as well. Wow.
It gets worse.

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Old 12-17-2009, 03:11 AM   #27
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I believe that in a real debate, without all of the geniuses butting in, Humber would eat your lunch. Excuse me while I wipe the water off my screen after that one.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:16 AM   #28
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I don't see that. I see a few flippant remarks designed to impress your friends.

I believe that in a real debate, without all of the geniuses butting in, Humber would eat your lunch.
See, this is one reason why smart people disregard people like you ... when presented with compelling evidence in a literate format, you disregard completely and engage in some passive aggressive ad hominem criticisms.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:26 AM   #29
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I believe that in a real debate, without all of the geniuses butting in, Humber would eat your lunch.
He'd eat my lunch? So you contend he is not only a lair, but a thief as well? At least Digthepast has documented instances of Humber's lies. I'm afraid that unless you have evidence that suggests Paul would steal from someone, you really owe him an apology.

BTW, has anyone seen my sammich? I'd left it in the PS fridge, but now it's gone.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:30 AM   #30
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I believe that in a real debate, without all of the geniuses butting in, Humber would eat your lunch.
So you're saying he's a liar and a thief?
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:33 AM   #31
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So you're saying he's a liar and a thief?
Your sammich missing too?
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:36 AM   #32
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Your sammich missing too?
Humber takes 10% of all sandwiches in the fridge as a tithe.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:37 PM   #33
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You know, the notion of a "debate" gets thrown around these threads a lot. It's clear that Humber has NO idea of what a debate entails. In a true debate, EVIDENCE must be presented to support your statement. Bible citings are not scientific evidence. Dissertations from unaccredited "colleges" wouldn't cut it either.

A debate is not a sermon. Please don't confuse it with one.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:45 PM   #34
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Notice how the sled casts a shadow, but the squid does not! Life that appears opaque, but passes every bit of light! Who could deny this marvelous creature is the result of the design of God, the father of Creator Christ!
So are you saying that the baby Jesus was really the baby octopus ?
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:47 PM   #35
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95% of every human that ever walked the planet believed in God.

Why isn't that fact proof enough? Did you ever think that you're in the minority if you are not a believer?
ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS
(1) Billions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:53 PM   #36
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95% of every human that ever walked the planet believed in God.

Why isn't that fact proof enough? Did you ever think that you're in the minority if you are not a believer?
The best estimate is that there have been around 110 billion humans in history, of which about 6 billion are alive today; perhaps 90 percent lived before the nineteenth century. That means that 90-95 percent of all human beings also believed that diseases were caused by demons and malevolent vapors from the earth, that the sun orbited the Earth, and that animal life could spontaneously generate out of rocks and trees.

I assume those positions are correct?
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Old 12-17-2009, 07:53 PM   #37
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95% of every human that ever walked the planet believed in God.

Why isn't that fact proof enough? Did you ever think that you're in the minority if you are not a believer?
And what orifice did you pull that info out of?
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:06 PM   #38
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The best estimate is that there have been around 110 billion humans in history, of which about 6 billion are alive today; perhaps 90 percent lived before the nineteenth century. That means that 90-95 percent of all human beings also believed that diseases were caused by demons and malevolent vapors from the earth, that the sun orbited the Earth, and that animal life could spontaneously generate out of rocks and trees.

I assume those positions are correct?
While you're engaging this idiot, you might want to point out that of that 95%, less than one third believed in YHWH.
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:11 PM   #39
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While you're engaging this idiot, you might want to point out that of that 95%, less than one third believed in YHWH.
Yeah, what he said.
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Old 12-17-2009, 08:11 PM   #40
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So are you saying that the baby Jesus was really the baby octopus ?
All deities are not created equal.
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