[avaiguite]

Sure you should examine everything in life. But it serves no purpose to denigrate what others believe. I am not a muslim but I would not insult Mohamed. Peace O.C.T..

[Menierofe]

I don't ask you to believe or not to believe, all i ask is that you tolerate others.

You're mixing up tolerance with reverence. I tolerate your beliefs, as they are your own and that is your right. I do not have to "tolerate" your rituals, idols, or your religion as a whole, I may disagree with it, satirize it, commit blasphemies, etc. That is not being intolerant, that is exercising my right to an opinion.

[HowardtheDuck]

You're mixing up tolerance with reverence. I tolerate your beliefs, as they are your own and that is your right. I do not have to "tolerate" your rituals, idols, or your religion as a whole, I may disagree with it, satirize it, commit blasphemies, etc. That is not being intolerant, that is exercising my right to an opinion.

True you can do as you please. I look at as showing other people respect.
I like to treat people the way I want to be treated. Thats all.

[Gakeincidoniac]

That's MAURY, Mr. Maurley.

Great Maurley's Ghost! I was on the way out the door and didn't double-check that. I knew it didn't look right.

I understand that you don't like Humber,but why attack the mother of Christ?
Try some tolerance.

It's not an attack; it's a statement of fact; things are very different today. If the virgin birth actually happened, nothing I can say can change that. If you have true faith in the doctrine of your Church. nothing I can say can shake that.

You may consider it blasphemy, but it can't be, as I'm not a believer. One has to have faith (or at least profess it) to blaspheme, and I don't.

If I'd wanted to attack Mariology (which I've no reason to, though I did find it odd that an committed anti-Catholic like Humber is embracing it), I would have brought up the fact that it fundamentally undermines the monotheism of Christianity.

But like I said, I don't want to do that.

[Sukadrukanga]

A just society must be tolerant; therefore, the intolerant must be tolerated, for otherwise, the society would then itself be intolerant, and thus unjust. John Rawls

[irrawnWab]

A just society must be tolerant; therefore, the intolerant must be tolerated, for otherwise, the society would then itself be intolerant, and thus unjust. John Rawls

Yup. It's why so many have such a hard time understanding why the ACLU does what it does, as they so frequently seem to support causes that would oppose them.

It makes perfect sense if you truly believe in the right to freedom of speech.

[squeerisott]

Mr. Morley has raised questions I asked many times during my extended tenure as a Roman Catholic. Why must Mary be a virgin and why is it important that she herself be conceived without original sin? I mean no disrespect to Mary but why must she be such a paragon? I too believe that the deeds and words of Christ are good enough- no need to make Mary superhuman. When I was a child in parochial school, we worshiped Mary in much the same way as we worshiped Christ. We even made altars for her every May and paraded around the streets of Germantown in her honor. Now that I am Episcopalian, I'm more comfortable with the lesser status afforded to Mary. I also appreciate the fact that the Episcopalians don't insist that Mary remained a virgin all her life and, in fact, bore other children in the usual way. ( This notion still upsets my devout RC father). When I was in 12th grade, I shocked my poor theology teacher by deriding Mary as a role model for young women. As I recall, I said, "She's a virgin AND a mother, Father. How are we supposed to compete with that?" This earned me a trip to detention but, fortunately, the priest in charge of jug that day found my story hilarious and let me go. He's now married to the nun who taught history.

[bUqLfXRI]

Hah, you had Justice Under God too!?!

The RC treatment of Mary was really one of the first things that started me on my path of rejection of religion. That and the Saints. I was a regular Martin Luther during the last two years of my HS education, debating this kid who was going into the seminary on theology.

[Hodstcopter]

What accounts for my insatiable, obsessive, even pedantic passion for beer, then? God knows beer itself is not a thing I lack in my life.

I don’t like beer at all. My father let me have some when I was about 8. I hated it. I guess some people like it because, when they get drunk, it helps them forget problems. The Lord Jesus, however, trumps any need I have for any artificial high. It’s exhilarating knowing Jesus, and He even has a solution to the problem of death. Absent from the body, for the believer, is to be present with the Lord. Some here may not believe that truth from the New Testament, but I believe Jesus over them.

[surefireinvest]

Yeah but beer is nice too.

One day I aspire to be like Seanibus, perhaps even worship his divine beer knowledge, for I hath known thy prophet from BeerAdvocate before thou ever joined thy forum.

[RedImmik]

I don’t like beer at all. My father let me have some when I was about 8. I hated it. I guess some people like it because, when they get drunk, it helps them forget problems. The Lord Jesus, however, trumps any need I have for any artificial high. It’s exhilarating knowing Jesus, and He even has a solution to the problem of death. Absent from the body, for the believer, is to be present with the Lord. Some here may not believe that truth from the New Testament, but I believe Jesus over them.

It sounds that you are suggesting that religion serves the same function for you that you claim beer has for beer drinkers. Interesting.

[Catieliecutty]

I don’t like beer at all. My father let me have some when I was about 8. I hated it. I guess some people like it because, when they get drunk, it helps them forget problems.

I drink beer because I like it, and seldom drink to get drunk. There are a lot of things people don't like as children that they love later on. It's called growing up.

[Niiinioa]

Beer is delicious.

[Heclailia]

I don’t like beer at all. My father let me have some when I was about 8. I hated it. I guess some people like it because, when they get drunk, it helps them forget problems. The Lord Jesus, however, trumps any need I have for any artificial high. It’s exhilarating knowing Jesus, and He even has a solution to the problem of death. Absent from the body, for the believer, is to be present with the Lord. Some here may not believe that truth from the New Testament, but I believe Jesus over them.

Good Heavens, Paul - I would assume you would realize that that beer could be clinching proof that God exists. It certainly is the one thing that makes me teeter on the edge of belief. I mean, what are the chances that a mix of partially germinated barley, water, yeast and hops would produce a drink that provides so many essential nutrients in an environment that is chemically incapable of sustaining any organisms dangerous to human life? Beer has probably saved more human lives than any antibiotic ever developed simply by virtue of being an almost completely anaerobic source of drinking water.

The chance of something so mind bogglingly useful to human life developing by mere chance, and being discovered by the very beings to whom it is so amazingly beneficial, are - well, they are far beyond my humble ability to calculate.

Paul, beer may in fact be the one real, undeniable physical manifestation of God's love for his creatures on this planet. And you dismiss it to cavalierly.

Unfortunate.

[SobiquYo]

Christ's first miracle was turning water to wine, so the wedding party could go on longer. If Christ is God and God drinks wine at parties, then Humber thinks God should find solace in himself? god is Humber's drug, he said so himself.

Humber, maybe you should just say no.

[pouslytut]

I drink beer because I like it, and seldom drink to get drunk. There are a lot of things people don't like as children that they love later on. It's called growing up.

"When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me."

[Overlord]

When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.

When I became a man, I found a lot better ways to be childish.

[tactWeiccaf]

When I became a man, I found a lot better ways to be childish.

Well, it is easier once you have control of your income and your own place...