[IssuessBratte]

Found these on Humber's blog...



ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN, a.k.a. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys — you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF
(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
(2) I believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

PARENTAL ARGUMENT
(1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS
(1) Billions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPLETE DEVASTATION
(1) A plane crashed killing 143 passengers and crew.
(2) But one child survived with only third-degree burns.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM POSSIBLE WORLDS
(1) If things had been different, then things would be different.
(2) That would be bad.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM SHEER WILL
(1) I DO believe in God! I DO believe in God! I do I do I do I DO believe in God!
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM NONBELIEF
(1) The majority of the world's population are nonbelievers in Christianity.
(2) This is just what Satan intended.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM POST-DEATH EXPERIENCE
(1) Person X died an atheist.
(2) He now realizes his mistake.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INFINITE REGRESS, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Ask atheists what caused the Big Bang.
(2) Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this.
(3) Continue process until the atheist admits he doesn't know the answer to one of your questions.
(4) You win!
(5) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (I)
(1) I once experienced something I can't explain.
(2) Atheist offers several possible, natural explanations.
(3) You're just guessing! I was there.
(4) Therefore, God exists.



Kidding about where I found these, unless Humber's blog is here...

[pumpineemob]

If someone gets into a bad accident and the person lives, it was a miracle of God. If the person dies, then God wanted him to be with God. In science class the teacher proved that you cannot disprove the existence of something that does not exist. The example he used was a ghost. In middle school we had this incredibly smart science teacher. What was he doing in middle school?

I remember the above. I also remember that he taught that cold was the absence of heat and that heat was molecular motion.

[bestbyV]

If someone gets into a bad accident and the person lives, it was a miracle of God. If the person dies, then God wanted him to be with God.

I remember, years ago, talking with the mother of a teenage girl who survived being shot 5 times in the belly. She said, "I believe the hand of God guided the bullets away from any vital organs." Though I kept it to myself, I couldn't help but wonder why, since God was directing the bullets, his had didn't make them miss her completely? It would seem God wanted her to experience pain and suffering, but not death. Nice guy, that God.

BTW, the girl was morbidly obese, the gun a cheap Lorcan .380. The paramedic who worked the shooting was a friend of mine, and said the ER doctors told her none of the bullets managed to make it through all that fat. The hand of God, or Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders?

[illetrygrargo]

You forgot "I read it in the bible." And MY book is right and the other book is wrong and I know this because it says so in my book.

[SypeKifef]

Personally I am open to the possibility of divine intervention, but sometimes you just gotta wonder.
I heard the following story many years ago and cannot remember the source, but I have never forgotten it:

A family in California were returning from an outing and had decided to take a different route home. They approached a sharp curve that could not be seen until you were right on top of it and going at a high rate of speed. The father panicked and jerked the steering wheel too sharply, causing the back door to swing open, due to the fact that their six year old son had been holding onto the handle. The boy tightened his grip as he flew out the door and hung suspended in the air as the pavement streaked below him. His father slowed the car to a stop and the boy climbed back in to the vehicle. Later, his mother said to him "You should be thankful that God was watching over you", to which the incredulous boy answered "God?! I was the one who held on!!!"

[SDorothy28]

You forgot "I read it in the bible." And MY book is right and the other book is wrong and I know this because it says so in my book.

ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.

Personally I am open to the possibility of divine intervention, but sometimes you just gotta wonder.

ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (I)
(1) I once experienced something I can't explain.
(2) Atheist offers several possible, natural explanations.
(3) You're just guessing! I was there.
(4) Therefore, God exists.


I hate it when people use that excuse "God was watching, it was a miricle, God saves!" It totally undermines the human experince, strips a human of their personal power & ultimately, their sense of self.

If a boy had the presence to hang on tight in the face of danger, the boy deserves to be praised, and that should be a marker in his life, the time you were quick-witted enough to know what to do.

[flowersnewacq]

ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (I)
(1) I once experienced something I can't explain.
(2) Atheist offers several possible, natural explanations.
(3) You're just guessing! I was there.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

I hate it when people use that excuse "God was watching, it was a miricle, God saves!" It totally undermines the human experince, strips a human of their personal power & ultimately, their sense of self.

If a boy had the presence to hang on tight in the face of danger, the boy deserves to be praised, and that should be a marker in his life, the time you were quick-witted enough to know what to do.

Being an agnostic I am receptive of both the possibilty of divine intervention as well as the human potential. "Miracles" that some people attribute to god are usually the result of someone working their ass off to achieve results. As in the case of that boy, he deserves full credit for saving his own life.
I am rather curious to know what the mother's reaction to his response.

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lovely lady bumps

[DiatryDal]

Oh dear god.