[Tauntenue]

A "don't come between me and my owner" kind of dog. A "don't pee and poop where I do" kind of dog. Lol

[wmtravelservice]

I like Akitas. So far I've only had positive experiences will them at events, dog shows and rescue. I wouldn't mind one one day when I have less dogs and could spend more time with just it.

[TeveVikep]

Really? Because I have a purebred show dog (whom I may breed in the future) and I use my local low cost clinic for most of his vet care (shots, HW test, HW preventative).. so that makes me a bad person? Am I only allowed to take Wilson & Piper to low cost clinics (in your eyes) because they're mutts?

It's not because I can't afford to go to a "regular" vet. I just see NO reason to go to my regular vet for routine stuff when I can pay half (if not less) the price at the low cost clinic.


Oh and, I've met some nice Akita's, and some not-so-nice Akita's. Really depends on the breeding and socialization of the dog.

Kady I should have been more specific in my statement. I was referring to programs like what we have here that are completely funded by donations and ran by volunteers. Not clinics that you pay a low price at, I also take my dogs to the Luvmypet clinics we have here for cheaper shots.

[bitymnmictada]

A family friend has an Akita he's a beautiful dog, they got him as a guard dog but he ended up really friendly..


-Gerry

[User-Luser]

could you post a picture of a Japanese akita? if you can find one? i've searched and searched and searched, every breeder and picture is the American akita

Ah sorry, I logged off, but just saw others had posted a few pictures

[User-Luser]

Honestly, I don't think they are.
I don't think that you would be able to do to an Akita what you can do to an APBT and walk away alive. They are not going to let you slip in the leadership department.... APBTs are a terror to deal with without leadership.. but IMHO, they are ideally NOT going to turn into Cujo. Akitas.. every time.

I don't understand how you didn't understand my quote, "they are just like pit bulls when it comes to ownership, not for most of the general public".

As stated, they are a breed that does not tolerate most to all strangers, so this is no surprise, especially when you are trying to handle one in an environment, where most dogs usually go under some form of stress.

[tmobmobfil]

This place is a non-profit organization. They do have you sign a piece of paper that states that you are low income. They don't check and are happy about any dog that won't be bred to make more... but they are largely funded by donations.

I have worked in animal medicine (and specifically veterinary ER) long enough to have seen it all... and oodles of people have gone all out on the purchase of an expensive dog to not be left for enough to have it get medical care in even the most dire situation. These people will TELL you, that they spent all of their savings on a $2,000 dog and that they are still paying for it.. and that this is why they expect you to do this or that for free or can't pay the bill.

As far as wanting to save a buck or two... sure.. but there is hopefully the realization, that less expensive doesn't necessarily mean equal service. Just by the shear volume dealt with in a low-cost budget place, you are exposing your dog to a larger population of dogs, who probably are unvaccinated. Same, if not more so, with cats. While the surgery is quick, the risk factors are higher for any dog or cat that has never seen medical care to ensure that the pet doesn't have underlying problems. Don't get me wrong... the place I am working with/at is doing about anything to minimize risk to the pets. They will turn animals away if their health is compromised. They constantly improve and maintain ways to decrease spread of communicable diseases... but there are limits. Last, but not least, the amount of patients being moved through a high volume place such as this involves way more stress for the pets than the average veterinary facility. There just are more animals in closer quarters, than in a place that has 15 - 20 hospitalized patients in it.

Last, but not least: I agree.. Akitas are gorgeous creatures. Also agree, that their use was never one to make for a snuggly teddy bear. BUT my point is: if you own a breed that is aloof, protective and not shy with the use of its teeth, it is many times more dangerous than the next Pit Bull left to its own devices. You are welcome to disagree... but to say that I should expect an Akita to rip me a new one, and that it is the same as expecting an APBT to rip the next dog up, is not going to make me feel any better about it. It's a huge short coming of an owner to feel OK about it and say "he gets a little upset", rather than: he will kill you.

[MFSSCW2c]

I used to have a Mt. Cur that my vet was terrified of. They will usually only respect their handler, and will flat out walk all over a timid/soft owner, but will not tolerate any pain inflicted from an "outsider". Another example of a dog not for everyone.

He would tolerate everything except shots and rectal thermometers. Had to give him all his shots personally. Last time the vet tried to put a needle in him the little 50# bonehead put him in the corner and wouldn't let him move until I took ownership over the situation. Had to give him two antibiotic shots a day for two weeks over a infected snake bite once. He didn't like it but he knew who put the food in the bowl and knew that I knew what was best for him.

[Gastonleruanich]

I get your point but I think the main point here is just like with Pit Bull type dogs any dog can be bad with a bad owner. This owner is clearly not a responsible pet owner showing up with a huge breed like an Akita (known for not liking other animals) on a flexi lead and not giving a crap that the dog growls at the groomer, just slapping a muzzle on it instead of working with the dog to accept people touching is in odd situations.

On a side not I really freaking HATE that people have these pure bred dogs like Akitas but are using a Spay and Neuter client which should be for people who really can’t afford it. So you can dish out the money for an Akita but can’t pay for the vet bills. Ugh.

It might just be a bad Apple, some dogs no matter how good the owner is are just bad. I had a chow chow what was crazy for no reason, he's the only dog I've ever had a problem with

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[tmobmobfil]

If this was the only Akita that I had ever met in this kind of situation.. I would agree. But it wasn't.
The best one to me, is the case of the surgeon, who bought a gorgeous male. Dog was actually kind of OK as a puppy, but then didn't see us again.. until the dog was full-grown and the owner complained about "behavior issues". Dog would threaten the wife... which didn't bother him TOO much, but the wife was terrified of the dog.
He didn't want to neuter the dog, because "the other dogs would laugh at him for losing his manhood". Dog then proceeded to actually use teeth on the wife, and the male owner agreed to neuter the dog, if we were able to provide prosthetics.. God Bless the Neuticle.
So, we implanted the Neuticles.
Well, the dog must have found out and got laughed at by the other dogs, because about a month later, he attacked the owner. No time was wasted this time and he brought the dog in for euthanasia.

[tmobmobfil]

As far as chows go... same story as with Akitas, but they are also more common and ... hardly anybody in the vet business gets excited about having to see one of them. They are usually matted beyond belief, in the summer (when the breed was even more popular), you would get maggot infested dogs ("my dog has worms dropping from it") who LOVED coming to the vet.

[Mello]

I love Akitas. It's actually weird for an Akita to like a stranger. I own an Akita x Aussie x Mallinois and she's a great dog, but she doesn't like strangers at all. Salesmen have stopped coming to our house since we got her lol

[TainuibeFaimb]

I'm all about the chow dog being nasty for sure! I've yet to meet one socialized and friendly!

[Arratherimi]

I'm all about the chow dog being nasty for sure! I've yet to meet one socialized and friendly!

I've met nice chows they need a special owner I never met one that was excited about the vet I know of one chow who tolerates being at the vet though most are a muzzle/caution. I wouldn't expect this breed to be good at a vets but I've met very nice ones outside of the vets office. But they just aren't over adoring like a pit bull or a lab when it comes to people. I don't agree that they are nasty I would never own one,but I do like and respect them

[machpamb]

Most people who own Chows shouldn't. They're not like most dogs, they nothing like other dogs when it comes to training. Slap a prong on and you'll probably be bit. Go about it right and you'll never have a issue, along with a stable, happy, obedient dog. (If well bred of course) If they didn't bother researching their breed and learning/understanding their dogs limits, that's on them for being an idiot owner.


They don't tolerate pain/punishments, especially from a stranger. Not all dogs are people sluts that are going to get along with everyone in every circumstance.

Again, I agree with you adjecyca.

[DoctorWeryDolt]

The Asian, spitz type dog breeds in general are very pack-oriented, wolf-like dogs. There's actually been many an argument about them being the most closely related to wolves of all domestic dogs. They need a very strong, serious hand. They're not prone to accepting strangers with open arms. They're very primitive in nature. I've found that, properly raised, they tend to be very fond of children. And very good guardians. I was actually raised with a chow chow. She was extremely DA, very stubborn, never so much as sniffed a stranger who entered the house, but she was very good with me. Mind you, I don't remember it well. I was two and three when I lived with her. But my dad's got many stories. And I've got a lot of pictures of the two of us together. He still speaks very fondly of her. He was in the military at the time and had to leave her behind at his mother's when he was stationed elsewhere.

One of our vets out here has two akitas who are absolutely excellent with her children. They're three and five. And the dogs are tremendously tolerant of the kids and of her. But that's about it. They're very wary of anyone else, as the breed is expected to be, and not fond of people. But they love her and they love her children. I feel sorry for her husband. Apparently they pay him little to no mind most of the time.

I love spitz types. I really would like to get my hands on a kai ken one day. I probably won't. But everyone has to dream, right? Haha.

[Arratherimi]

The Asian, spitz type dog breeds in general are very pack-oriented, wolf-like dogs. There's actually been many an argument about them being the most closely related to wolves of all domestic dogs. They need a very strong, serious hand. They're not prone to accepting strangers with open arms. They're very primitive in nature. I've found that, properly raised, they tend to be very fond of children. And very good guardians. I was actually raised with a chow chow. She was extremely DA, very stubborn, never so much as sniffed a stranger who entered the house, but she was very good with me. Mind you, I don't remember it well. I was two and three when I lived with her. But my dad's got many stories. And I've got a lot of pictures of the two of us together. He still speaks very fondly of her. He was in the military at the time and had to leave her behind at his mother's when he was stationed elsewhere.

One of our vets out here has two akitas who are absolutely excellent with her children. They're three and five. And the dogs are tremendously tolerant of the kids and of her. But that's about it. They're very wary of anyone else, as the breed is expected to be, and not fond of people. But they love her and they love her children. I feel sorry for her husband. Apparently they pay him little to no mind most of the time.

I love spitz types. I really would like to get my hands on a kai ken one day. I probably won't. But everyone has to dream, right? Haha.

hit the nail on the head! but i met one extreme exception chow chow when i was younger, my neighbors had it and didn't take care of it, it was always allowed to run loose, it was matted and very thin, but i was an adventurous little kid and spent my time catching stray dogs and bringing them home. Anyway i started feeding the chow and he adored me! he knew when i would come home from school and knew what time i woke up in the morning he was always there to walk me to and from my bus stop. I begged my mom to let me keep him and she was wary at first especially since we had a pitbull mix who was a huge handful, but eventually she gave in and went with me to ask the owners if they'd let us keep their dog (they didn't take very good care of him)but when we went there he was shot in there front yard... One of my saddest memories honestly, and why the chow has a special place in my heart i wish i could have had him sooner, he and my dog played like crazy and we would spend so much time in the land behind my home.


I know that's rare for a chow, maybe it was so willing to accept me, was because he was so desperately hungry, but anytime i was outside he was there, and even when he wasn't interacting with me, he would watch me

[bitymnmictada]

hit the nail on the head! but i met one extreme exception chow chow when i was younger, my neighbors had it and didn't take care of it, it was always allowed to run loose, it was matted and very thin, but i was an adventurous little kid and spent my time catching stray dogs and bringing them home. Anyway i started feeding the chow and he adored me! he knew when i would come home from school and knew what time i woke up in the morning he was always there to walk me to and from my bus stop. I begged my mom to let me keep him and she was wary at first especially since we had a pitbull mix who was a huge handful, but eventually she gave in and went with me to ask the owners if they'd let us keep their dog (they didn't take very good care of him)but when we went there he was shot in there front yard... One of my saddest memories honestly, and why the chow has a special place in my heart i wish i could have had him sooner, he and my dog played like crazy and we would spend so much time in the land behind my home.


I know that's rare for a chow, maybe it was so willing to accept me, was because he was so desperately hungry, but anytime i was outside he was there, and even when he wasn't interacting with me, he would watch me

Oh my gosh I'm so sorry


-Gerry