[Keendwainge]

As far as i know a lot of people say APBT and AmStaffs are the same, I believe they aren't anymore. But my big question is Do American pitbull terriers come in blue? I've spoken with people that said they never did yet people are telling me they do because the UKC excepts all colors even blue (nor merle) but they also would Register American bullys as APBTs. So do they?

[Pypeassesty]

There are blue APBTs, but they're few and far between.

And APBTs and AmStaffs come from the same stock way back when, but they've become their own separate breed IMO.

[Keendwainge]

Hmm so your most likely to see other colors not very many blues. I heard somewhere that people will Inbreed their blue dogs to keep the blue going or something like that probably why a lot have health issues

[Pypeassesty]

Hmm so your most likely to see other colors not very many blues. I heard somewhere that people will Inbreed their blue dogs to keep the blue going or something like that probably why a lot have health issues

It seems like you can find every color in APBTs really. The "blue" color is really just a dilute black (and if anyone wants to correct me, by all means do so as I'm about 5 beers in and color genetics has never been my thing)

And those people breeding those blue dogs are probably morons. No one should breed dogs with known health issues regardless of color (and shouldn't be breeding for color in the first place).

[PymnImmen]

You can find it in ABPT....hardly ever though. Honestly, you do NOT want a Blue dog, they are really nice to look at...but can have a boatload of allergy and skin issues.

[HedoShoodovex]

Although blue may have occurred rarely in the APBT, most of the blue dogs you see today have been bred for color which automatically means they are not APBT. As soon as breeding for color occurs you no longer have a working breed but now it has become a confirmation breed. A blue APBT is extremely rare and that just means not common, it does not mean more valuable. If anything I would avoid a blue dog if I were interested in an APBT because I just don't trust any breeder of blue dogs that says they are APBT regardless of any registry that accepted money to register them.

[bestgenpower]

Yes, blue is simply a diluted black. No, it is not that common in APBTs. Yes, it is HIGHLY overdone in AmStaffs/Am Bullies.

A blue dog produced from non-blue parents is 100 times more likely to NOT have issues, because it's an F1 dilute. Blue dogs bred from blue parents have an increased likelihood to have issues, and that increases still the more generations of blue-to-blue breedings are behind that dog.

confirmation breed.

ConfOrmation.

[DoniandaCoado]

This question about blue made me wonder what I would find if I googled "blue breeder". This is what I found. Take a look
http://www.ultimatebluepitbulls.com/puppies.html

They all these puppies "extreme".

[DariushPetresku]

This question about blue made me wonder what I would find if I googled "blue breeder". This is what I found. Take a look
http://www.ultimatebluepitbulls.com/puppies.html

They all these puppies "extreme".

Those dogs look pitiful. What's sad is someone will buy them and those breeders will continue to breed dogs like that

[PypeDeft]

Mr crowley is fucking ugly

[adariseediups]

There is only 1 blue dog that I have ever seen that I would consider a pit bull, and she is on our flyball team. She was a rescue (her owner left her, as a 7 week old pup, alone with his other 2 dogs and they broke her jaw), so her lineage is unknown. She's the epitome of what an APBT should look like, is amazingly athletic and has very nice muscle tone. She's more blue fawn than completely blue. Other than that, I've never met a blue dog that I would ever consider and APBT.

[DariushPetresku]

There has only ever been one Blue pit bull type dog I've considered taking in. A friend of mine came into a litter of pups that she was trying to find homes for and no one wanted the little blue one. However he wasn't an APBT. He was a mix between an APBT and an Ambully and he was a beautiful blue brindle. However I wasn't at a point where I could raise another puppy at that time and honestly the potential risk of skin and allergy issues kind of put me off. Its just a common issue with blue dogs. He was a pretty little pup but it just wasn't the right time. I probably would not consider a blue dog in the future though unless it was one that found me that needed me. I'm a sucker for a rescue dog. However blue wouldn't be my first choice.

[DoniandaCoado]

Those dogs look pitiful. What's sad is someone will buy them and those breeders will continue to breed dogs like that

Were the dogs on there APBT? But just bred to the extreme or are they something else?

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Mr crowley is fucking ugly

To me Mr Crowley doesn't look all dog. He looks like a hybrid; dog and human line-backer mix.

[PypeDeft]

Were the dogs on there APBT? But just bred to the extreme or are they something else?

Those dogs have no apbt in their bloodlines period...... I guarantee the isn't apbt blood 10 generations back

[BqTyG9eS]

Of course APBTs can be blue. They weren't at all unheard of in the gamedogs of the past. The thing is, however, the it's not a common dilution. And APBTs weren't bred for color. They were bred for gameness. For their performance.

The reason blue dogs are what they are is because the color was isolated. Breeders began to breed for the blue coat, paying no mind to the working aspects of the breed. It became a popular color to breed for in Amstaffs, and still is. Then, of course, you had people take those Amstaffs (and, in the very beginning, APBTs) and warp them, possibly mixing them with other breeds of dogs, though there's a lot of debate on that. Either way, they bred blue dog after blue dog after blue dog, selectively breeding for the traits known in American Bullies today.

So blue is no longer considered a color associated with the true APBT. But blue dogs have popped up from time to time in gamebred litters.

[Theariwinna]

Geez there are dogs like those all over the computer I can't even find a site with decent looking dogs anymore they all look like freakin monsters on steroids, I think breeding for this type of look is what give all bulldogs a bad name. Hell almost all of them have those crazy unresponsive looking eyes, I wouldn't trust the temperament and to think they must be making money hand over fist to charge those prices right on the freakin home page of their site, it is all a money grab and has nothing to do with improving the perception and acceptance of the breed. I guess if there wasn't a demand for this crap it wouldn't be here so with that I will shut my mouth (or fingers).

[HedoShoodovex]

Those are horrible looking dogs. Everything that makes an APBT great in terms of athleticism, stamina, agility, and drive is missing from those dogs. What a shame but then again, there is no accounting for taste.

Teal - it's confirmation if the dog is a Catholic. I am aware it was just a fast typing err but thanks for letting me know you are paying attention to the small stuff.

[BliliBoopsy]

They once existed, but they are certainly not an average find anymore, especially with today's outbreak of the ambullies (which are bred specifically for the color blue typically or size). You have the entire concept of "blue pits" being madly driven by BYB's, that lead many people to believe that, they are pit bulls solely on that (like the red nose craze) or, if their dog is not overly done like an ambully, it is therefore, a pit bull.
It's honestly very complicated to simply explain blue and pit bulls to the average individual because blue bullies have exploded in popularity (another great opportunity for BYB's), that they range in so many different variants, that confuse the general public even further. When people already have such a hard time spotting an actual pit bull on top of it all. Every person that has tried to pass of their dog as a, " full blooded blue pit", automatically screams NOT pit bull.

[djmassk]

There is only 1 blue dog that I have ever seen that I would consider a pit bull, and she is on our flyball team. She was a rescue (her owner left her, as a 7 week old pup, alone with his other 2 dogs and they broke her jaw), so her lineage is unknown. She's the epitome of what an APBT should look like, is amazingly athletic and has very nice muscle tone. She's more blue fawn than completely blue. Other than that, I've never met a blue dog that I would ever consider and APBT.

She is such a gorgeous dog.

[bestgenpower]

While we're at it.. My Ruger is an APBT, and he is blue brindle (out of non-blue parents). He's not perfect, and he's not a gamebred dog... but he's 40 pounds, lean, muscular, and athletic.

Teal - it's confirmation if the dog is a Catholic. I am aware it was just a fast typing err but thanks for letting me know you are paying attention to the small stuff.

I know you know the proper term, which is why I felt the need to jokingly point it out All in good fun! Ya can't take everything so seriously