[gdjfhdf]

Is this possible? and could you keep a dog healthy like this?

[Uhmavano]

i would say no. Dogs need animal flesh to survive. Dogs are not ment to eat plants. admitly i do not know what veganism entails because i eat meat myself but i just know that no dogs need animal protein to be healthy.

[FailiaFelay]

It's possible, but I don't think it's a very good idea at all. The dog might survive, but will it be as healthy as it could be? Probably not.

A person's ideology is his or her business, but if you bring a carnivore into your home then you should really respect its needs. Dogs don't have hangups about eating meat - they love it and crave it.

[gdjfhdf]

I've tried reading up on it out of curiosity I would be scared to feed my dog soy.

[Flerdourdyged]

well considering most crappy dogfoods have little meat in it I would say yes...but it would be like feeding the crappy food so not good for the dog at all

[Mark_NyB]

Dogs are naturally carnivores. Why mess with nature?

[letmelogin]

I think they can survive just fine, if and ONLY if you do the proper re-search. That is so important! I personally wouldn't because dogs are meant to eat meat but they aren't going to die without meat. I've met plenty of people online who are vegetarian and feed that type of diet. I don't agree with it but they do have healthy dogs that are just fine.

[gdjfhdf]

Dogs are naturally carnivores. Why mess with nature?

Well I still feed kibble isn't that also not natural in its own way.

[Uhmavano]

I think they can survive just fine, if and ONLY if you do the proper re-search. That is so important! I personally wouldn't because dogs are meant to eat meat but they aren't going to die without meat. I've met plenty of people online who are vegetarian and feed that type of diet. I don't agree with it but they do have healthy dogs that are just fine.

no not die..but will they live the life they could have if they were fed a proper diet?
Tahlz, i know you are not for this diet so i am not questioning you directly just that line made me think.

[Mark_NyB]

Well I still feed kibble isn't that also not natural in its own way.

No it's not which is why I feed raw. But it's still closer than vegan, which isn't healthy for anyone, including dogs.

[kiosokkn]

Uhh dogs are carnivores..I would say that they *would* die without meat lol maybe not now....maybe not tomorrow or next year, but I would say they will die due to their poor diet. Supplementing can only bring you so far. I never understood the logic of feeding a dog a vegetarian diet, it makes sense for humans to be vegetarian because they can survive being omnivores without meat but even they will have deficiencies and have to take iron pills and the like. A dog is a carnivore, as has been proven again and again. Not only is it completely against nature, but it doesn't make sense. There are quite a few raw feeders who are vegans. That's how much they know about canine nutrition. IMO you would be better off feeding a crappy kibble over a vegetarian diet.

[gdjfhdf]

It's Actually a perfectly fine diet for people but that's a different subject.

[letmelogin]

no not die..but will they live the life they could have if they were fed a proper diet?
Tahlz, i know you are not for this diet so i am not questioning you directly just that line made me think.

You are right, I'd never feed that diet, I couldn't.. I find it sad to see people do it to their dogs. I think dogs can live a life just fine on a diet if done properly, the people who feed those diets really stressed how important it was to feed a 'balanced vegan' diet. In saying that, I don't believe they get all the nutrition they need though. I think dogs that aren't on vegan diets are much healthier.

I try and tell myself it isn't that bad because I want to push and convince them to change the dogs food. Dogs are meant to eat meat and I don't agree that just because you choose to eat a vegetarian diet, you shouldn't force the dog to do the same.

[Poohoppesmase]

I have no scientific evidence but I would think not. Humans need less meat than dogs and I dont think humans do good on vegan diets. There are some nutrients and minerals that are either not present in significant quantities or not bioavailable in plant based producrs.

[gdjfhdf]

I have no scientific evidence but I would think not. Humans need less meat than dogs and I dont think humans do good on vegan diets. There are some nutrients and minerals that are either not present in significant quantities or not bioavailable in plant based producrs.

Wrong yet again humans do fine on vegan diets as long as nutrition is researched, meat is not needed nor the milk of other species, I was asking about dogs not humans idk why it keeps getting brought up.

[Flerdourdyged]

Wrong yet again humans do fine on vegan diets as long as nutrition is researched, meat is not needed nor the milk of other species, I was asking about dogs not humans idk why it keeps getting brought up.

actually humans need proteins that can be gotten in a glass of milk, a PB swandwitch and a banana a day...but for me...I cant eat PB currently due to my baby being allergic, I am lactose-intolerant and I hate bananas, they make me sick (and ALL need to be taken every day if you want the proper proteins and such) so for me I can't be a vegetarian.

For most dogs a lifestyle without meat would be just as dire as it would be for me because most dogs are allergic to the carb fillers used, one of mine is so allergic to them that the only thing that has kept weight on him is a Prey model raw diet, not even the best kibbles out there could keep weight on him or adding over 2,000 calories a day. I think he is the model child for why a vegan diet is bad for dogs

[Mark_NyB]

Most of the raw feeders here are Prey Model Raw feeders, meaning we don't believe in feeding grains or any other kinds of plant. You're not going to find many supporters (if any, at all) of dog vegan diets here because it's simply COMPLETELY unnatural and goes against what their teeth and digestive systems were designed for.

[kiosokkn]

actually humans need proteins that can be gotten in a glass of milk, a PB swandwitch and a banana a day...but for me...I cant eat PB currently due to my baby being allergic, I am lactose-intolerant and I hate bananas, they make me sick (and ALL need to be taken every day if you want the proper proteins and such) so for me I can't be a vegetarian.

All babies are "allergic" to PB before one year old. If not, they have a much higher chance of becoming allergic if given to them that young.
Humans *can* survive just fine with a vegan diet, however vitamins need to be taken for your body to be considered healthy.
Dogs are a totally different story. As stated many times here lol

[Mark_NyB]

All babies are "allergic" to PB before one year old. If not, they have a much higher chance of becoming allergic if given to them that young.
Humans *can* survive just fine with a vegan diet, however vitamins need to be taken for your body to be considered healthy.
Dogs are a totally different story. As stated many times here lol

One of my friends is vegan and she needs to supplement like crazy.. Which begs the question of why not just eat meat, in moderation obviously, so that you don't need to supplement. Supplementing in people is the same as dogs. The reason you do is if you medically get something that you aren't getting from food but eat a better diet and you don't need to supplement (unless you have diagnosed deficiencies).

[gdjfhdf]

Most of the raw feeders here are Prey Model Raw feeders, meaning we don't believe in feeding grains or any other kinds of plant. You're not going to find many supporters (if any, at all) of dog vegan diets here because it's simply COMPLETELY unnatural and goes against what their teeth and digestive systems were designed for.

I am not looking to feed vegan to my dog what's so ever I was just curious about it but thank you for your input