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Old 03-23-2012, 03:37 AM   #1
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Default Airlines and pit bulls/pit bull mixes
Couldn't find any recent threads on this. So is there currently a list of airlines that will accept pit bulls and put bull mixes? Anyone flown their pit bull recently?

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Old 03-23-2012, 03:40 AM   #2
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I know United Airlines does
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:49 AM   #3
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United Airlines no longer allow pit bulls and many other breeds. http://news.petpardons.com/united-ai...c-legislation/

The rules however, take a sharp and unfriendly turn as their guidelines now stipulate the dog must not be one of the nine breeds that United Airlines considers “dangerous”:
  • Pit Bull Terriers
  • American Staffordshire Terriers
  • Presa Canario
  • Perro de Presa Canario
  • Dogo Argentino
  • Cane Corso
  • Fila Brasileiro
  • Tosa (or Tosa Ken)
  • Ca de Bou
United will not accept any dogs of these breeds or mixes of these breeds, once they have reached either 6 months of age or 20 pounds (9 kg) in weight (whichever comes first).
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:51 AM   #4
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then that took place after last week.. i flew with ruckus out to oklahoma and back and she is on there list an APBT and around 45 pounds
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:16 AM   #5
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So there are no others? No one who shows dogs use airlines? I hope it isnt true!
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:59 AM   #6
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Try googling the name of airlines with something like "Breed Restrictions".
Every airline should have their regulations on their main website just have to find it lol.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:13 AM   #7
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Well I guess United is out now... That's shitty.

Although, I would never fly a dog if I can help it.. And I usually can.

In any case, you're reaching the time of year where it's unsafe (and restricted) to fly any dog, no matter the breed. In the warmer/summer months, there are restrictions that do not allow dogs in the cargo area. The cargo area isn't pressurized or air conditioned. If a plane were to sit on the tarmac for even an hour, it could do some irreparable damage to a dog, if it doesn't kill it first.

I believe it was Delta that had several dogs die a couple years ago due to their employees to ignoring this law/restriction.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:29 PM   #8
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I tried to google, but i though some people on here may have recent, first hand experience
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:48 PM   #9
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I find it kind of funny that they are restricting breeds on planes... the dogs are in crates wtf do they think the dogs are going to do?

I wouldn't fly unless I had to but it sucks that the option of flying is slowly being taken away.
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:32 PM   #10
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I find it kind of funny that they are restricting breeds on planes... the dogs are in crates wtf do they think the dogs are going to do?

I wouldn't fly unless I had to but it sucks that the option of flying is slowly being taken away.
dogs CAN tear out of crates.

regardless. these restrictions are getting stupid.

we had to use delta but i do not like delta.. though im not sure if they accept our breeds anymore... ive never bothered to look. most people here just drive to shows because they have multiple dogs.
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:55 PM   #11
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I find it kind of funny that they are restricting breeds on planes... the dogs are in crates wtf do they think the dogs are going to do?
Actually dogs are usually removed from the crates, and the actual crate is searched. Of course this is done with the owner present. I was a Pre-Board Screener for many years, and that was the procedure for dogs and crates.
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:57 PM   #12
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dogs CAN tear out of crates.

regardless. these restrictions are getting stupid.

we had to use delta but i do not like delta.. though im not sure if they accept our breeds anymore... ive never bothered to look. most people here just drive to shows because they have multiple dogs.
I know they can but the only time I ever hear about it is when there's a bitch in heat or the dog has severe SA. I would assume nobody would fly with a dog like that. But then again flying can be a stressful thing for a dog so I guess it could cause unusual behavior so I see your point.

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Actually dogs are usually removed from the crates, and the actual crate is searched. Of course this is done with the owner present. I was a Pre-Board Screener for many years, and that was the procedure for dogs and crates.
I didn't know that. You learn something new every day!
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:07 PM   #13
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I didn't know that. You learn something new every day!
Yeah I've searched my fair share of smelly dog crates.... It was funny though, cuz many of the officers I worked with were uncomfortable around dogs, so I was the go-to officer to do any searches that concerned dogs or even other animals.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:08 PM   #14
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Actually dogs are usually removed from the crates, and the actual crate is searched. Of course this is done with the owner present. I was a Pre-Board Screener for many years, and that was the procedure for dogs and crates.
they inspected our crate before the dog was ever in it.. i just walked into the airport with him on a leash lol
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:21 PM   #15
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I know they can but the only time I ever hear about it is when there's a bitch in heat or the dog has severe SA. I would assume nobody would fly with a dog like that.
Yeah, I would think if anyone knew about any SA or panic tendencies their dogs had that they would NEVER put them through a very stressful event like flying.

When I prepare puppies for shipping, they are already used to spending time and are comfortable IN a crate. Then, I try to mimick some of what happens during a flight -- crates are picked up and handled roughly, scooted across a floor...then I go for a ride down a busy freeway (with pup in crate) with the windows down and let the pup experience all that noise.....I try to drive down rough gravel roads, etc.. Then I drive into a busy truckstop and let the pups hear the loud noises the trucks make.

I HAVE flown dogs many times with no problems, but I really don't like to. And, I haven't done it recently. It is becoming a real pain to fly them, both domestically and overseas. You have to carefully check out each airline's policies. Now, United and others no longer fly the dogs as excess baggage when you fly WITH them. You have to pay full cargo and in some instances I'm hearing about, use what's called a "fighting dog box", which I hears costs several hundred dollars.

Pits and Staffs ARE considered snub-nosed breeds along with Pekes and Bulldogs, etc. (they really AREN'T but that is how they are classified by airlines) which means you can't fly above 75 degrees or something like that. Best NOT to fly at all in the summer even if they DO take your dog.

Someone said the cargo area was not pressurized and temperature controlled...I would think it would HAVE to be to survive 80 below zero and no oxygen to speak of at 30,000'! (I don't think it's the ENTIRE cargo area, but the small area they have for live animals). Probably what's happening is that these deaths happen while the plane is waiting and they don't have the temp control going like they do when flying. OR, when the dog gets left on the baking tarmac...

I understand that if you call your dog a "Yankee Terrier", there is no problem....

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Old 03-23-2012, 09:59 PM   #16
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So...no one knows of an airline?? Kinda got off topic.

Also, there was a story of a pit bull getting out and chewing through wires destroying major stuff, I think that is why United added the restriction
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:55 AM   #17
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When are you trying to fly?
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:02 AM   #18
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My youngest was flown to us from Tallahassee to San Francisco via Atlanta in October 2010. He came via Delta.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:38 AM   #19
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Oops...looks like Delta won't accept APBTs or the like, they are considered a brachycephalic breed. Geez, the breed just can't catch a break! I really wouldn't consider my APBT a snub nose dog, my bullmastiff yeah, but not her...
http://www.delta.com/planning_reserv...ions/index.jsp
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:54 AM   #20
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So...no one knows of an airline?? Kinda got off topic.
A lot has changed just recently. Delta and United used to be just fine. So, you are going to have to check with each airline's policy. One thing I think I would NOT do is call a dog a Pit Bull or Pit Bull mix -- just call it a "Yankee Terrier" or Jack Russell mix or something....

I think with some airlines you can still ship as cargo and pay all that, which is expensive -- some have stopped letting them fly as excess baggage, which is a lot cheaper.

Always try to get a non-stop flight, even if it means traveling more miles to get the dog to another airport...

I had a friend in Holland who booked 2 Am Stafs to fly over WITH him to USA last month. When he got to the airport, he was told they could NOT go as excess baggage, which is how he usually flies with them. He would have to pay full cargo and put each dog (2) in a "fighting dog crate" which was $600. IT was WAY too expensive and he had to make the trip without them.

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