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Old 12-31-2011, 06:38 PM   #1
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So I need some opinions because I'm not quite sure if it's my place...I've sometimes heard a dog crying from next door and didn't really think anything of it. The other day Stryker was tugging me over there and at the neighbors yard line is an American bully, hes chained to a plastic dog crate and the chain is only long enough for him to jump on top of his crate and move maybe in a two feet radius around it. Hes a healthy weight and has water hes a little dirty but I feel so awful for him lately I hear him cry ALOT he doesn't get any human interaction he seems friendly towards Stryker he always wags his tail when he sees him but stops the moment he sees me. I think the people next door are elderly and maybe are unable to care for him...Is this enough to call SPCA?
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Old 12-31-2011, 07:53 PM   #2
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If it has food, water, and proper shelter, those are the only requirements for life and thus, the dog is adequately being taken care of. I don't think there's any "dog must have x amount of human interaction per day" clause in any law.

It doesn't seem fair, and IMO, I would not tether a dog with a tether that short. But, unless there is law regarding how long a tether should be, there's nothing AC should or can do.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:45 PM   #3
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If it has food, water, and proper shelter, those are the only requirements for life and thus, the dog is adequately being taken care of. I don't think there's any "dog must have x amount of human interaction per day" clause in any law.

It doesn't seem fair, and IMO, I would not tether a dog with a tether that short. But, unless there is law regarding how long a tether should be, there's nothing AC should or can do.
X2 I agree. Also some dogs just have separation anxiety. I know my dog cried tons when I had to leave him outside for only 10 mins (fire alarms in my building were going off and I was just inside the door from him). Just because a dog cries doesn't mean it's being abused.
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:01 PM   #4
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Mind your own business and leave the people alone.
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Old 12-31-2011, 09:17 PM   #5
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I'd be calling AC an awful lot because what you are seeing is quite common around here. Lots of coon dogs are kept this way (although their chain setups are better than the one described above).
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:11 PM   #6
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Like stated by Liliana, It has food, water, and shelter so they would consider it kept properly. All that may come from it would be MAYBE telling them to put fresh water out more often.
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:33 AM   #7
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If you're concerned, and they are elderly, maybe be neighborly just go talk to them. Maybe they are having issues taking care of him. They might be thankful if you offer to walk their dog once a day or something.

An ex BF of mine did that with an elderly lady clinet of his vet. She lost her husband and couldn't walk much, so the ex would go down on weekends at walk the dog. At first the dog was so fat she could only got a block or so. After a while, he'd take her to his house Saturday morning and let her play with his dogs all day then take her back in the evenings.
When the lady ended up in the hospital for a few days, she called him and asked him to keep the dog until she got out. She ended up having to go into assisted living and he ended up keeping the dog.
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Old 01-01-2012, 03:57 AM   #8
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I think maybe you should just talk to them and say something like 'Hi neighbor... I noticed you have a bully breed type dog and I love them. Just wondering if one of these days I could meet him/her if you don't mind.... he/she is really cute.'

Don't call AC.. Liliana's right and they won't care.

And we have a dog that when put in his outside kennel all he does is freak out crying and won't shut up... we even got a ticket for it... so he doesn't go in his kennel anymore lol.
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:19 AM   #9
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Stay out of it and mind your own business. It's not your problem or your place to interfere. One of the quickest ways to get on somebody's bad side is to tell them what they should be doing with their dog.
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Old 01-01-2012, 05:42 AM   #10
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Let us PRESUME you are correct in that, the dog is left outside chained up like that all the time and that the owners are elderly and unable to provide adequate care;

I don't know who in the world thinks it is okay for that dog to be out there at all times or treated like that. I don't understand how a responsible dog owner would be okay with that. I am not the type of person who believes pets should be left outside indefinitely. A PLASTIC CRATE IS NOT SHELTER. Shame on YOU.

BUT

If you are just realizing this now I wonder if you are new to the area? Do you not know who your neighbors are, or how old they are? Have you not seen the dog crying outside for weeks/months now? I am not saying your wrong but these are legitimate questions that contradict your narrative so I think the answers are appropriate.

That said I believe just checking a book to see if it 'fits the code' is immoral and apathetic. I believe pet dogs deserve more rights than they are afforded, I don't believe they deserve council and a 401k but they also have souls which deserve to be treated with care.
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Old 01-01-2012, 05:58 AM   #11
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I don't know who in the world thinks it is okay for that dog to be out there at all times or treated like that. I don't understand how a responsible dog owner would be okay with that. I am not the type of person who believes pets should be left outside indefinitely. A PLASTIC CRATE IS NOT SHELTER. Shame on YOU.
Please explain to me, oh knowledgeable blogger, why can't dogs stay outside 24/7? I had dogs that lived outside 365 days a year, even in blistering cold (for humans) northern Illinois winters. They did just fine. The few times we did let them inside because WE thought it was too cold for them, they couldn't WAIT to be back outside.
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Old 01-01-2012, 06:43 AM   #12
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Let us PRESUME you are correct in that, the dog is left outside chained up like that all the time and that the owners are elderly and unable to provide adequate care;

I don't know who in the world thinks it is okay for that dog to be out there at all times or treated like that. I don't understand how a responsible dog owner would be okay with that. I am not the type of person who believes pets should be left outside indefinitely. A PLASTIC CRATE IS NOT SHELTER. Shame on YOU.

BUT

If you are just realizing this now I wonder if you are new to the area? Do you not know who your neighbors are, or how old they are? Have you not seen the dog crying outside for weeks/months now? I am not saying your wrong but these are legitimate questions that contradict your narrative so I think the answers are appropriate.

That said I believe just checking a book to see if it 'fits the code' is immoral and apathetic. I believe pet dogs deserve more rights than they are afforded, I don't believe they deserve council and a 401k but they also have souls which deserve to be treated with care.
I moved in a month ago with my best friend I was over alot and I thought maybe it was just crying every now and then but now that I actually live here I hear him crying from my window at all hours , next time I see him out in the yard I'll try to start a convo with hin
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:18 AM   #13
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I don't know who in the world thinks it is okay for that dog to be out there at all times or treated like that. I don't understand how a responsible dog owner would be okay with that. I am not the type of person who believes pets should be left outside indefinitely. A PLASTIC CRATE IS NOT SHELTER. Shame on YOU.
I do. Most of my dogs are outside 24/7. Just because somebody keeps dogs outside doesn't mean that their dogs are unhealthy or uncared for. People that believe otherwise are why idiotic dog laws get passed that make it more difficult for dog owners. It's that type of person that will bitch about me hauling my dogs in a trailer or a dog box, or tell my they're too skinny or this, that, or the other thing when they have no idea what they're talking about. Beside the fact that I do care very much for my dogs, it doesn't make money sense to house them in a harmful manner. For starters, there's seven of them, they'd be damn hard to replace, and they put food on my table and sometimes money in my pocket. No way would I treat them wrong and it gets under my skin when somebody says otherwise.
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Old 01-01-2012, 06:19 PM   #14
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I moved in a month ago with my best friend I was over alot and I thought maybe it was just crying every now and then but now that I actually live here I hear him crying from my window at all hours , next time I see him out in the yard I'll try to start a convo with hin
That's what I would do. Small talk from one neighbor to another.
Obviously don't be too nosey or ask crazy questions that would seem rude.
Just keep it friendly, simple and nice

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Oh ya, don't be surprised if he doesn't want to talk.... I hate knowing my neighbors and wished I'd never responded to her when she was 'nice'. Some people just want to be left alone.
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Old 01-02-2012, 12:20 AM   #15
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If someone mentioned my outdoor dog was crying at all hours and I happened to be elderly or disabled and unable to walk said dog, I would be ok if that person offered help. If I was really in over my head with a dog some other person dumped on me, but I didn't want to take it to the pound where it would be euthanized, I would even be ok if said person asked to take over ownership, care for the dog, and either keep it permanently or find it a home. Just sayin.

Go over, politely mention the dog cries a lot. Take it by ear, but if it looks like the owners need help and you are willing to help them, then do so if you can get their permission.
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Old 01-02-2012, 12:49 AM   #16
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I would want to know if my dog was making noise. I would rather have a person talk to me about a problem then call AC. I had someone do that to me about a dog with a gimpy leg they thought I was "fighting". He was a dog I was fostering from our Humane society who had been hit by a car and was under vet care. But instead of asking me they just called AC, thanks person.
Dogs can stay outside if given proper shelter. I'd go and say HI to the people and just let them know. If they are old or need help you could help them get a better chain spot and shelter
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