[Patamuta]

I can't quite figure out how he does the third kind of biting. He snaps at the closest body part he can get at, and then lunges in closer and the second bite is much more forceful, and he clamps down and shakes his head like he's trying to rip your skin. He hasn't had a chance to get a third bite in yet.

All of those types of bites are cause for concern, but the third type of biting should definitely = dead dog, at least IMO.
And I still think the parent should have their head boxed for letting their toddler hit the durn dog. That may be why he is the way he is.

Happy holidays ...

[lalffibra]

Seriously, the mis-information in this thread regarding PSDs, PPDs and MWDs is just dumb founding to me.

I TRAIN, actively am around multiple PSDs, none are anything like people are trying to make them sound. They aren't dogs I'd run up to, but they are dogs that are ok with petting after the handler gives the OK.

Do some research people. Really truly research, meaning get OUT from behind the computer and INTERACT with some of these dogs that you are putting down so much.

[deandrecooke]

I saw this on another website I'm on...

Here's the OP:

Wasn't paying attention to him, but I realized he was acting funny. Like his body was frozen and he was just staring at me. Next thing I know, he's jumping up and attacking me.

No snarling or growling or warning of any kind except for that weird stare and frozen posture (not a threatening stance, just.... completely still) He managed to get my hand and ripped some of the skin off of two fingers and bruised my knuckles and thumb... This was him being flat out aggressive and wanting to hurt me.

All of what the OP described is some of the things that our truly HA pit bull did. Several thousands of dollars of Veterinary tests, two trainers, and an animal behaviorist later, and we made the decision to humanely euthanize him when nothing we did nor others could do would change him.

I don't care if the dog is a teacup blah-dee-dah or a 180+ lbs mastiff of some sort. If the dog has an unpredictable temperament and is a danger to himself and others, nothing has worked in easing his pain (emotional, physical, mental problems, etc.) euthanization is the best route.

I'd also like to know how old this poodle mix is. My parents' senior poodle started getting dementia around the age of 14 to the extent of it would freeze, stare into the distance, and then lash out at my mother (or others for no reason.) He'd jump off the bed, walk into a corner of the room, and stand there. They ended up humanely euthanizing him.

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P.S. I hope the OP meant "animal behavior work" and not "obedience training." Obedience training isn't going to help a human aggressive dog. The root and cause of the dog's aggression should first attempt to be diagnosed and determined before anything else.

[Precturge]

I saw this on another website I'm on...

Here's the OP:

As some of you know I've been working with our family dog dog several months. We've gotten to the point where he's saintly with me- well behaved with the cats, other dogs, and kids (even my stupid 2 year old sister who hits him whenever she can.) He's been nothing but an angel for me for the past few months.

Last night, I got up to walk past him to get into the kitchen. I've walked past him in that spot hundreds of times before. Wasn't paying attention to him, but I realized he was acting funny. Like his body was frozen and he was just staring at me. Next thing I know, he's jumping up and attacking me.

No snarling or growling or warning of any kind except for that weird stare and frozen posture (not a threatening stance, just.... completely still) He managed to get my hand and ripped some of the skin off of two fingers and bruised my knuckles and thumb.
There's a definite difference between when he used to play-bite and this. This was him being flat out aggressive and wanting to hurt me.

So. We're taking him to the vet next week to see if we can possibly figure out what's going on. This isn't the first time he's bitten someone, but it's the first time he's bitten aggressively without any kind of provocation.

First thing I thought of was rage syndrome, but I've always heard that it's not a real disorder. Anyway, once we get him to the vet and get him looked at we've got to start weighing our options.

In all honesty I want to put him down. He's a liability to us. He's bitten me, my dad, the 2 year old, my ex boyfriend's mother and my brother's ex girlfriend (we chalked the ex's mom up to dogs' ability to sense evil XD)

My mom wants to put him in obedience training, as if that would do anything. He's perfectly obedient already, he has behavioral issues. I know she won't be willing to work with him, especially once I move out. He's her dog and she refuses to have anything to do with him.
My dad wants to give him to the shelter. In our local shelter, he's just going to be put down and we all know it. And I don't know if I feel right giving a dog with known aggression issues to someone else to deal with.


So what would you do in my place?
TL,DR? Rage syndrome: true or false?

Plus the dog also did this:

Yeah... it's the end of the road for Pork, five minutes ago he attacked my sister (2) and bit her face several times.

And this is what some idiot is telling her!!!

you put the dog down and its your fault and you lose. i cant belvie how many people are justsaying put the dog down. i recently saved a litter of puppies from being put down. i think you should try all your options before giving up and just saying put the dog down. muzzle the dog, put the dog in a room by its self, try the obidence school, take him to mulitple vets and get differnt opinions. i dont feel sorry for everyone who got bite, i feel sorry for the dog and i dont care what any of you heartless people say.

why would she pay 20k on another animal? it is her dutie to take care of the one she has. that money does not dersve to be for another animal. it is the dog she has now money.

But there are SEVERAL other people telling her to put the dog down, me being one of them.

Keep in mind this dog isn't an APBT, it's a Poodle mix.

What your guy's opinions on this?

[capeAngedlelp]

Foreshadowing the way this thread is going to end:
Aggression and what causes it. Help please! - Training Behavior

[V8V8V8]

Ooh do I know the person? o:

[dxpfmP0l]

Sometimes, I swear it's idiot people who make me want to start drinking!

[FreeDownloadOEMsoftware]

Sometimes, I swear it's idiot people who make me want to start drinking!

Too late here
People like this are the ones who make me think that the penalty for going on a nationwide mass-killing spree MIGHT be worth it...

[Precturge]

Ooh do I know the person? o:

Blau PM me you'll LOVE where this is originally posted!!

[V8V8V8]

I bet I know... PMing!

[Calluffence]

Sometimes, I swear it's idiot people who make me want to start drinking!

Too late here
People like this are the ones who make me think that the penalty for going on a nationwide mass-killing spree MIGHT be worth it...

Too late here too.

That killing spree sounds better and better everyday.

[ebBPxIai]

Sigh. Notice if a pit bull had bitten so many it would be all over the news, but its a Poodle mix so no one cares. Mother fuc*ing humanity!

[topbonuscasino]

I don't give a damn what the breed is. If it lays a tooth on me or my babies, it's dirt nap time. Hell, if it lays a tooth on ANYONE for no good reason, it's game over.

[ebBPxIai]

I don't give a damn what the breed is. If it lays a tooth on me or my babies, it's dirt nap time. Hell, if it lays a tooth on ANYONE for no good reason, it's game over.

Of course no breed should get away with hurting anyone, but I just meant to say how the media seems to love setting its crosshairs on pit bulls as the sole problem when many types of dogs bite and maim every day.

[topbonuscasino]

FTW, one of the issues I have IS that pit bulls are more demonized than other breeds. If a "pit bull" should be put down for HA, so should every other dog. Why should it be ok for the rest? And believe me, there are TONS of people why try to save HA pit bulls.

[mireOpekrhype]

FTW, one of the issues I have IS that pit bulls are more demonized than other breeds. If a "pit bull" should be put down for HA, so should every other dog. Why should it be ok for the rest? And believe me, there are TONS of people why try to save HA pit bulls.

So we should euthanize guard dogs for being HA?

Kill all these dogs, according to you of course

[V8V8V8]

FTW, one of the issues I have IS that pit bulls are more demonized than other breeds. If a "pit bull" should be put down for HA, so should every other dog. Why should it be ok for the rest? And believe me, there are TONS of people why try to save HA pit bulls.

Because some dogs are BRED to be HA? Like... guard dogs?

[topbonuscasino]

Guard dogs shouldn't be truly human aggressive. BIG difference between guarding instinct and attacking 2 year old kid that walks by.

[FreeDownloadOEMsoftware]

Should I join a Dodge Diesel forum when all I have is a Honda Accord? Just join because I want a Diesel, can't contribute to the forum at all unless is BS posts

If you know what you are talking about, so what if you don't currently have one?! This chat is for APBT owners AND enthusiasts.

So we should euthanize guard dogs for being HA?

A true protection dog is, in fact, very civil (human friendly). This is the basis in all training, INCLUDING PSD and MWD training.

[mireOpekrhype]

Guard dogs shouldn't be truly human aggressive. Maybe you should learn the difference between being wary and being aggressive.

Depends what your version of HA is