[Searmoreibe]

cupcake is close to 11 months and here are new pictures taken this weekend.

She's around 43 lbs now, was up to 48 lbs and called fat by a vet I work with . Personally I think she needs to gain a little weight, but maybe she needs to lose or buff up...she doesn't look muscular but she is solid. However, she's not as long legged as I've seen some apbts, and she doesn't look much like my foster which I think is a "true" apbt ( the foster does not have any lose skin whatsoever on her face, unlike cupcake, she's more agile, longer legged and her snout is longer, her head isn't as broad and large as cupcakes, she almost has a perfect triangle shape to her face) I have no papers on both and, cupcake was found half dead at 8 weeks. To me, next to the foster she looks like she has some bully in her-ya know, the dogs people say are pit bulls but are not? I know blue is not commonly seen in the apbt...so I'm starting to wonder now that she's gotten bigger and has filled out some. I didn't see the difference until I picked up my foster and now I'm scratching my head .

Think this girl may have some of the bully blood in her? I actually DO NOT like those dogs but regardless she'll be loved just the same.

also, I'm not a breeder, I'm NEW still to the pit bull world so please correct me on anything. There's so much information out there that say's this and that and I just do not know what to believe. Even the breed books have some things wrong!

Either cupcake isn't what she appears to be or the foster is the one that isn't! I'll have to post pictures of both so ya'll can compare.

Here's cupcake:

[Cyclicymn]

She wont get any taller, but she might fill out more.

She's a pretty dog.

[michael247]

Love the ears!!!
She looks good!

[Dstyeglm]

I agree with Libby. I think she is at a good weight. Such a pretty girl!

[priceyicey]

She is at an okay weight I guess. I show so I keep mine a little slimmer then this. Nikki grew an inch in height between the age of 1 and 2 and filled out, she did not lose her puppy look until she was like 1 /2

[Searmoreibe]

Here is Lady Bug-taken tonight just a few moments ago.





Both are "pit bulls"-but they both look " different " from each other. Am I correct that it appears that ladybug may be apbt-I'm guessing 100 percent? I've seen pictures of pure bred red nose apbt and some look just like lady bug, same body shape-she's very limber almost grey hound like.

She's currently very malnourished from being abused and neglected by her former owner and she may fill out and look more like cupcake but as far as her head goes...she does not have what cupcake has.


They seem to be both the same height though I could swear she's taller than cupcake. If lady bug does not resemble what should be APBT let me know. She'll be up for adoption once she's better in Jan.
As for cupcake-she's a mystery now that lady bug is around. The both of them are. How can they both be the same breed but look so different?

Thanks for any insights....

S.

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haha! The replies were fast on this one! I wasn't expecting such a fast response....I was in the process of adding pictures of lady bug to compare.

Thanks for the compliments! She has a mean streak though LOL. Boy does she have a mean streak. She's a sweetie pie with me and the hubby but like's to act all tuff around strangers only to whine when no one pets her. : shakes head :.

Lady bug is the same way-I'm trying to get her warmed up to men since she appears to be afraid of strange men, but she loves my husband.

ladybug, I know it doesn't show in the pictures well but she has what looks like "tiger stripes " on her coat and appears to be a red/brindle even though it's subtle. A friend at work said she was beautiful and she is in person.

I know in the apbt it's a fault to have loose skin around the face, which cupcake has-lady bug has NONE. When they play lady bug is able to grab ahold of cupcake, cupcake...however cannot grab her. That's another thing that makes me wonder if she is truely apbt and not mixed?

I could be wrong....

god, I sometimes wish I never came across this breed!!! Never in my life have I had to do so much research, concerning breeding, what is a pit bull what isn't, blah blah blah! But glad I did anyways.

[michael247]

With APBT's (and please correct me anyone, if I'm wrong) There is no real set standard because the were bred for utility not looks. So as long as the dog could do the job, he could look as he was. If he couldn't do the job he didn't get to pass along his genetics. Most AKC breeds have to conform to a set standard(at least in the show ring, so they can win) so people breed for the "look" and less for what the dog can do.
This is why the Border Collie people did not want the breed to go AKC. A working dog has to be able to work, who cares what color it is, or the set of it's ears...

[Searmoreibe]

Love the ears!!!
She looks good!

the ears are hilarious. one of them lay's to the side and the other is pricked up not all the way but half way as shown in the picture. She looks totally goofy.
Sometimes one ear will stand all the way up the other, half pricked.

other times she'll slick both of them back and when she does this she looks like she has cropped ears just about and looks scary...she'll do the sideway's look and growl and prance at my feet.
It's just funny, how she uses her ears to communicate with me. I'm glad they were never cropped. I had considered it but I think it's better this way.

lady bug's ears are always half prick, never flat on head and the both of them do not deviate from their position except back.

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With APBT's (and please correct me anyone, if I'm wrong) There is no real set standard because the were bred for utility not looks. So as long as the dog could do the job, he could look as he was. If he couldn't do the job he didn't get to pass along his genetics. Most AKC breeds have to conform to a set standard(at least in the show ring, so they can win) so people breed for the "look" and less for what the dog can do.
This is why the Border Collie people did not want the breed to go AKC. A working dog has to be able to work, who cares what color it is, or the set of it's ears...

I'm wondering about that as well. I'm basing both of these dogs on the akc staffordshire terrier and I did see an apbt conformation page it should be on this site somewhere but most of what I got from that site I'm also applying to these two girls trying to figure them out. I've done research on both and still...

without papers I'll never know but even with papers there can still be issues as I've seen several on this site and elsewhere get papers that were not true to what the breed was, i.e a bully instead of apbt.

[capeAngedlelp]

As others have said, she won't grow much in height, if at all. But she will fill out, lose baby fat, and gain muscle mass.
Lily hasn't grown in height since she was 9 months old. But over the last month and a half (from 13.5mo to 15mo) she's gained 4 pounds and now weighs in at 40lb. And trust me, none of that is fat .

[baronaaba]

She looks just like my Kilie! Generally by 12 months in human years thats 15 years so by that standard i'd say she probably has still several months of growing. As Libby said, she probably wont get much taller but she will fill in a bit more, more than likely. I'd say she'd top out around 50 based on a generalized understanding of dogs growth. (all breeds are differently, but im quite sure shes still not done - however not so much left it will be significant) As for the bully comment in your original post, if shes mixed its possible for APBT's to have all kinds of builds mixed, it just depends on what shes mixed with and how much of what

[xtc2d6u8]

with true APBTs, they range in all sorts of shapes and sizes. theyre not bred for looks.