[adactthrd]

He was like his 175 pound bull mastiff would whoop my dog. I told him he would take his dog on but I don't want him fighting. Later he said he would lay down ansclet star do whatever because he did that for a pomerainian I think star could do some damage if he got into a fight but I won't let him

[RBJamez]

He was like his 175 pound bull mastiff would whoop my dog. I told him he would take his dog on but I don't want him fighting. Later he said he would lay down ansclet star do whatever because he did that for a pomerainian I think star could do some damage if he got into a fight but I won't let him

ok now you got me all confused...or could it be I been up since 8pm either way I don't get what came before this post, I see the one about the huge head but then there is this I am confused.... either way I am glad you won't let him get into fights, they are bad news and vet bills and no fun.

[adactthrd]

I got add so I don't follow progressive line of thought

[YpbWF5Yo]

SMK, that was my point. These various and multiple registrations mean nothing. Your dog, my dog, and the next person's dog can be registered as apbt, but they are actually something else; it makes all registrations of this "breed" of dog worthless. You can call your dog is anything you want, but most people are going to turn around and say, "that's a pitbull." There is no response for ignorance. You might as well say it's a poodle.

[CDCL7WKJ]

So, isn't it our responsibility has knowledgable dog owners to call our dogs by the correct breed?

It's every registry. My neighbor AKC papers saying his dog was a St. Bernard, but the dog was very much a chow. So, should my neighbor go around telling people he owned a St. Bernard?

Why is it every registry? Because Registries work on the Honor System, they trust that when one hands in papers, they are being honest about the two dogs you put in that information. It would be extremely difficult for a Registry to check out every single paper handed into them to make sure the Breeder is being honest. That is why it is extremely important for the buyer to be smart about whom they get a dog from. Though, I am not saying the Registries are innocent. They are a business, so, sometimes even when they find out a dog is mixed (Whopper for example), they might overlook it, because of the money it has generated.

Other people being ignorant isn't an excuse to promote ignorance.

[YpbWF5Yo]

Again, my point isn't that you shouldn't call your dog what it is and try to educate people. My point is that if registration papers say a dog is a St. Bernard and it's actually a chow, registrations are worthless. When people claim their dog is an apbt, an ambully, an amstaff, etc. based on the dog's registration, it means nothing. This was in response to someone talking about breeders getting pissed about calling their dogs something they weren't. You don't know what your dog is based on paperwork. Many of these dogs are difficult to distinguish by look. Owners of an ambully get angry when someone calls their dog a pitbull. Really? I generally don't have the time to argue or educate everyone I see that calls my dogs something they aren't. I just hope they can see that the dogs are some of the friendliest and most loving they will ever meet.( Unless they are a cat or a mouthy little dog!)

[GuitarLoverBe]

BigJai: When you said "dual registered APBT and UKC", what is APBT? I know of APBR, but I've never heard of a registry called APBT. Just wondering...

A lot of Am Bully breeders are just registering ABKC and ABBA now, since they recognize the American Bully as a separate breed from the American Pit Bull Terrier. What I DON'T like about the ABKC, is that they don't have a way for American Pit Bull Terriers (like MJ) to be registered. Kinda sucks, becausde I'd like to be able to take both dogs and show them in the same show instead of having to drive coast to coast (of FL) for shows for each.

Not sure how much checking into this you have done, But you should just try sending in you papers to ABKC!!!! Im not sure who told you this or why they told you this.... I have 2 iron cross dog that are bullys, but Reg with both UKC and ADBA as american pitbull terr and i have NO PROBLEM i just sent in a copy of my dogs papers and i think 20 bucks... I wouldnt even call and ask i would just send it in and see what happens if you havent already and when at shows if you dog isnt as bully as others you just find the class that best fits.... I wasnt sure how to do this also because as iv said my dogs are bully so i shouldnt have problems at these shows but once again there reg american pit ter so i wanted to send it inasap before theres any rule chaning.... just a thoght!!!

[CDCL7WKJ]

I think she is saying that she wants the ABKC to also recognize the APBT, so, she can show an Ambully and an APBT with the same registry. Not that she wants to register her APBT as an Ambully, but I could be wrong...

Jai, you shouldn't have to argue, but you should at least initially say, "I have an Amstaff/Ambully/whatever." If they say, "No, that's a pit bull," then drop it if you want.

[robinthesearchmasterh]

It's usually not worth your time and energy to stand and argue with the ones that "know everything about everything" anyway.... I've found that it's easier on my blood pressue if I just smile and say, "oh.... ok. Well, gotta run" and walk away. In the long run, it makes you the better person, and he.... well.... he's always going to look like an idiot know it all anyway.

[YpbWF5Yo]

I do tell people what my dog's are and will discuss it with them if they like, but I've found more people's opinions are changed by how my dog's behave than anything I can say.

[GuitarLoverBe]

I'm sorry. I said APBT, I meant ADBA and UKC. She's registered as a apbt. Sorry!

all to funny i have the same problem.. my 2 iron cross dogs both dual reg with ADBA and UKC there both bullys and i show them as bullys at ADBA and ABKC shows BUT there UKC and ADBA papers have them reg as american pitbull ter i think its just gonna take time for things to get changed at the kennel clubs but in the mean time i sure catch my fair share of mad pitbull owners telling my how my dog isnt a pitbull!!!

[CDCL7WKJ]

No doubt, I am sure it's more important to get across your dogs are good dogs, and like MN said some people just are never going to listen, but I still believe it's important that we as a community call our dogs by the correct names, because since Joe Schmoe thinks any dog with short fur and muscles is a pit bull, that is why they think they are so mean, because so many dogs are mistaken as one, and the news reports them as such, you know what I mean? So, if the Bully Bred Community took the steps to identify their dogs correctly, it might help, if just a little bit, in the grand scheme of things.

Boxxy, do those people get mad because you call your dogs, APBTs or do you call them American Bullies, and they just get mad because you have those papers?

[YpbWF5Yo]

Boxxy, I'm sure you do. It gets "prickly" at times.

[adactthrd]

This guy was telling about some kind of dog that he claimed as a pit but he said it gas a huge head. I might be wrong but I said that wasn't a pit could be an ast or something. I haven't seen an apbt with a huge head yet. I'm just not. Going to waste my energy especially at a customer

[gDGwm8BC]

there are some big headed APBTs but no one with an APBT says "check out my big headed pit"

[Anymnillulky]

Yep, pits can have big heads. However, more than likely the guy has an Ambully, since they are most popular now and all you see anymore out in the general public. Some amstaffs also have large heads, some don't. All the idiots in my area are alwyas bragging about head size on the "pits". Probably to make up for the lack of smaller parts, they themselves have..... I am talking about their brains. :')

[adactthrd]

He said it was huge. So I was doubtful but I could be wrong

[markkisil]

Probably an AmBully

[GuitarLoverBe]

lol people these days.... more then likeley this guy had a bully maybe all pit by now but at some point most these bullys been crossed to gain size!!! I have an Am bully female with a 22 in head for a pit and a female i call that big some people may say other wise and my bully is a reg American pitbull ter so to the average person i call her a pit so i dont have to be asked whats a bully... So with all the breed crossing and dif names being used these days who knows what he had it may have been a pit, my dogs grandpa has a 27 in head i call that huge but hes also a bully not your average pit so theses no why to know for sure what cind of wheat's hes feeding this huge dog lol but you just gotta smile and say ok with things like this!!!

[Xxedxevh]

That's what pisses most apbt breeders and owners about American bully owners.the call them pits and apbts.call them what it is it isn't that hard.people ask me what type of dog sabrina is all the time and I say American bully.I got asked one time what an American bully was and i explained it to that person.believe it or not alot of people have heard of American bullies.