[zoppiklonikaa]

What can I say to make my husband understand!

Please understand that I do everything I can to keep our breed's name clean.
I learned a lot on this site and I have relayed this information to my husband many times. I also practice what I learn 100%.

We have an invisible fence in the front yard and back yard. We had it put in when we found out that 4 ft fences were the standard in our 12 home neighborhood, knowing our APBT could clear 4ft easy. We have our backyard fenced in with wood also and that is where I play with our APBT with her ecollar on and she has never even tried to come over the wood fence (mainly because she will not come close to the invisible fence).

Now to the incident... I came outside to find our APBT(6) and our American Bully(7months) playing in the front yard with Jason(husband) and a neighbor and her puppy. I told Jason we needed to put Harley(our APBT) in the house and he snapped at me saying she was playing with the neighbors dog. Harley was playing with the neighbor's pup while the neighbor's other dog(full grown sight hound mix, Daisy) stood by her. Well, I went to get Harley to bring her in asap and the neighbor must have thought I wanted to talk to her so she started walking to me and I told her to hold on lemme get Harley but she came into the invisible fence area and Daisy went after Harley because Harley got to close to neighbor. We both got our dogs with in 2 seconds and no damage done. But that was way too close for me! We have had 2 other close calls with the same neighbor's boxer because of Jason keeping Harley in the front yard and the neighbors NEVER leashing their dogs. Both of the other close calls happened when the boxer ran into our yard and attacked Harley.One fight did end up with the boxer being hurt slightly after he ran into our garage and attacked Harley.

I guess the point of this is to get help to find ways to make my husband understand that his ignorance is gonna end badly one day. I am fed up and I do not want Harley to hurt another dog! Any advice would be great! Thanks!

[Eujacwta]

Does he want to lose his home?

[zoppiklonikaa]

Does he want to lose his home?

I really think he believes that he is either in the right because our dogs are in our yard or he thinks that Harley really will not kill another dog. He gets extremely defensive when I try to talk to him about it. I can not get much out of him.

[defenderfors]

hmmm i don't know much but i can tell you some of what i kjnow.invisible fences are somewhat animal cruelty but atleas the dog is kind of secure,but here's the problem they tend to cause.because they are an invisble fence other dogs and people can't see them meaning they might think that the dog isn't secured.a stray dog might be wondereing around who's extremely DA and becasuse he has nothing that can stop him from getting to the dogs he runs up to them charging and they get into a fight.the dogs don't have alot of options because it's either fight for your life or risk getting a shock from running out of the invisible fence.so i'd try and get a real fence.your husband also needs to realize that if your dogs causes harm to another dog or person it isn't the dogs fault but it's his also and it will come out of his insurance.if the insurances doesn't accept people to have apbts or other bully breeds than he's basicly screwed.meaning he'd have to pay all the damage fees himself and your dog would have to be put down.

this might be off the subject but i see you live in memphis LOL.that will also have a bsl affect on our laws.they tried to ban pit bull type dogs twice and it didnt pass if one of your dogs attack someone and they try it again it might just pass.it will not only be man v.s. man but man v.s.society because people will be pissed off they have to get rid of their dogs because he decided to be irresponsible.

[wasssallx]

hmmm i don't know much but i can tell you some of what i kjnow.invisible fences are somewhat animal cruelty but atleas the dog is kind of secure,but here's the problem they tend to cause.because they are an invisble fence other dogs and people can't see them meaning they might think that the dog isn't secured.a stray dog might be wondereing around who's extremely DA and becasuse he has nothing that can stop him from getting to the dogs he runs up to them charging and they get into a fight.the dogs don't have alot of options because it's either fight for your life or risk getting a shock from running out of the invisible fence.so i'd try and get a real fence.your husband also needs to realize that if your dogs causes harm to another dog or person it isn't the dogs fault but it's his also and it will come out of his insurance.if the insurances doesn't accept people to have apbts or other bully breeds than he's basicly screwed.meaning he'd have to pay all the damage fees himself and your dog would have to be put down.

this might be off the subject but i see you live in memphis LOL.that will also have a bsl affect on our laws.they tried to ban pit bull type dogs twice and it didnt pass if one of your dogs attack someone and they try it again it might just pass.it will not only be man v.s. man but man v.s.society because people will be pissed off they have to get rid of their dogs because he decided to be irresponsible.

Invisible fences aren't cruel. The shock doesn't hurt a dog.

That being said, she should put up a chain spot for her dogs.

[EjPWyPm4]

Put up a chain spot. There's nothing more secure than a good chain spot, especially if you can build a kennel around it.

Sit your hubby down and have a long talk. Have information available. Explain to him that even the smallest accident can end badly for you two and your dog. Dog can be taken away, you guys can lose your home and get sued for everything you have, etc.

Leave lots of information lying around the house. If he's a bathroom reader, put it all in there.

And invisible fences aren't cruel. Less effective than a normal fence or good chain spot, but not cruel.

[sisimelanyk]

if he does not understand or can not get the dog issue.. ok, so be it...
but what is not excusable to me, is that he knows how you feel and is ignoring that... he should do what you want out of concern for how you feel.... unless that is not important to him, which is what he is showing... that would be my major concern in this situation....

[EjPWyPm4]

if he does not understand or can not get the dog issue.. ok, so be it...
but what is not excusable to me, is that he knows how you feel and is ignoring that... he should do what you want out of concern for how you feel.... unless that is not important to him, which is what he is showing... that would be my major concern in this situation....

[Shemker394]

tell him hes not allowed to hadle the dogs until he can learn to be responsible? i dont know. kindly let your neighbors know the situation and how you feel about it and see if they are willing to tie out there dogs or whatever it may be

[StoyaFanst]

my fiance and father in law (we own a house together) kind of have the same idea. My fiance thinks that having the dog out is fine (on our property), but we do keep him leashed 99% of the time except for when we are walking him to his teather to leash him up, and by getting another dog it will be totally fine to let them interact together. I have told her that when/if we get another dog, they can play together, but they won't be left alone together, amongst other things.

There will be seperate times for training, etc, as I've learned a good amount reading here about our breed of dogs, and even bringing another into the house (she/we want an Amstaf female), can end up in issues if all parties aren'ta aware.

I'm sorry that your husband isn't understanding of your feelings, but one of a few things could eventually happen:

a: you lose the dog and get sued because the dog bites another dog/person
b: your husband develops a brain and starts feeling compassionate and understanding (fat chance as I'm a guy, and we are set in ways at times).
c: show him this site, and give him material to read. If he really can't understand and thinks that your dog is the one dog that will never harm another person/dog, then honestly kick him square in the junk and make him think about that while holding his junk and being pissed at you. Explain that is how it's going to feel to you if your dog ever did that and you are forced to lose the dog. Maybe he will learn then.

[reachmanxx]

Have him check out the dog park stick - Kady05 posted some good videos of what can happen. Even though this isn't a dog park situation those videos can/are a reality when people are ignorant. Also have him check the "expect a bulldog to fight" sticky as well. Maybe those will give him enough information/scenarios to "get it."

[defenderfors]

Invisible fences aren't cruel. The shock doesn't hurt a dog.

That being said, she should put up a chain spot for her dogs.

that's what people who've had them told me.yet,they used it on their small dogs so i really dont know.plus i havent used one

[samanthalueus]

they are ok on any size dog. doesnt really hurt at all just a quick short shock and the warning beep is ussually enough warning to prevent a dog from testing the boundry

[compiit]

Elec fence for farm animals gives a big shock, but still won't hurt a good sized animal or human.
Invisible fence is not cruel, unless your a stupid human that does not follow the training instructions for your dog.
I'm with Obed on this one also.

[zoppiklonikaa]

hmmm i don't know much but i can tell you some of what i kjnow.invisible fences are somewhat animal cruelty but atleas the dog is kind of secure,but here's the problem they tend to cause.because they are an invisble fence other dogs and people can't see them meaning they might think that the dog isn't secured.a stray dog might be wondereing around who's extremely DA and becasuse he has nothing that can stop him from getting to the dogs he runs up to them charging and they get into a fight.the dogs don't have alot of options because it's either fight for your life or risk getting a shock from running out of the invisible fence.so i'd try and get a real fence.your husband also needs to realize that if your dogs causes harm to another dog or person it isn't the dogs fault but it's his also and it will come out of his insurance.if the insurances doesn't accept people to have apbts or other bully breeds than he's basicly screwed.meaning he'd have to pay all the damage fees himself and your dog would have to be put down.

this might be off the subject but i see you live in memphis LOL.that will also have a bsl affect on our laws.they tried to ban pit bull type dogs twice and it didnt pass if one of your dogs attack someone and they try it again it might just pass.it will not only be man v.s. man but man v.s.society because people will be pissed off they have to get rid of their dogs because he decided to be irresponsible.

We are actually on the outskirts of Memphis in the boonies. In our case the invisible fence was the smartest option when paired with our other fence. Our dogs our the only ones that do not get out of their yard so I feel confident in it even though I wont leave them out unattended in the back yard.

Put up a chain spot. There's nothing more secure than a good chain spot, especially if you can build a kennel around it.

Sit your hubby down and have a long talk. Have information available. Explain to him that even the smallest accident can end badly for you two and your dog. Dog can be taken away, you guys can lose your home and get sued for everything you have, etc.

Leave lots of information lying around the house. If he's a bathroom reader, put it all in there.

And invisible fences aren't cruel. Less effective than a normal fence or good chain spot, but not cruel.

I honestly do not believe we need a chain spot. My only real problem is my husband not keeping the dogs in the back yard or on a leash. Our back yard is pretty secure with both fences in place. Other dogs can not come in and our dogs can not get out. Posted pics to try to get a better picture. I will put printed material in the bathroom...good idea! Thanks!

if he does not understand or can not get the dog issue.. ok, so be it...
but what is not excusable to me, is that he knows how you feel and is ignoring that... he should do what you want out of concern for how you feel.... unless that is not important to him, which is what he is showing... that would be my major concern in this situation....

I feel the same. I hate that he does not seem to care what makes me uncomfortable. He always tells me to chill and stop worrying...not an easy thing for me to do!

tell him hes not allowed to hadle the dogs until he can learn to be responsible? i dont know. kindly let your neighbors know the situation and how you feel about it and see if they are willing to tie out there dogs or whatever it may be

My neighbors are @#$% idiots that do not know a thing about dogs! These animals are literally children to them. They think I am horrible for running our APBT daily. And they think, along with my husband, that I starve the dogs!

my fiance and father in law (we own a house together) kind of have the same idea. My fiance thinks that having the dog out is fine (on our property), but we do keep him leashed 99% of the time except for when we are walking him to his teather to leash him up, and by getting another dog it will be totally fine to let them interact together. I have told her that when/if we get another dog, they can play together, but they won't be left alone together, amongst other things.

There will be seperate times for training, etc, as I've learned a good amount reading here about our breed of dogs, and even bringing another into the house (she/we want an Amstaf female), can end up in issues if all parties aren'ta aware.

I'm sorry that your husband isn't understanding of your feelings, but one of a few things could eventually happen:

a: you lose the dog and get sued because the dog bites another dog/person
b: your husband develops a brain and starts feeling compassionate and understanding (fat chance as I'm a guy, and we are set in ways at times).
c: show him this site, and give him material to read. If he really can't understand and thinks that your dog is the one dog that will never harm another person/dog, then honestly kick him square in the junk and make him think about that while holding his junk and being pissed at you. Explain that is how it's going to feel to you if your dog ever did that and you are forced to lose the dog. Maybe he will learn then.

I will explain all of the above to him...thank you!!

Have him check out the dog park stick - Kady05 posted some good videos of what can happen. Even though this isn't a dog park situation those videos can/are a reality when people are ignorant. Also have him check the "expect a bulldog to fight" sticky as well. Maybe those will give him enough information/scenarios to "get it."

WIll do...good idea thanks!

Elec fence for farm animals gives a big shock, but still won't hurt a good sized animal or human.
Invisible fence is not cruel, unless your a stupid human that does not follow the training instructions for your dog.
I'm with Obed on this one also.

I have shocked myself with the collar to kinda get a feel....wont be doing that again!!! It definetly would get their attention if they let it level up to that strength of a shock.

[reachmanxx]

How do you know that other dogs can't get in? Didn't you say that it was only a 4ft fence? That is nothing - just about any dog can scale that.

[defenderfors]

How do you know that other dogs can't get in? Didn't you say that it was only a 4ft fence? That is nothing - just about any dog can scale that.

good point.sabrina can easily clear a 4ft fence she can even jump over the 8ft fence we have.

[Babposa]

Ask him why he wants your dog to die.

If he keeps letting him loose in the front yard, he will likely get in a fight one day. When that happens, either the owner of the other dog will pull a gun and shoot your dog, or not. I'd avoid taking that chance, especially in the Memphis area.

Oh, if it helps, feel free to tell him that Anonymous Internet Man G.B. says he's being a dipshit.

Good luck

[zoppiklonikaa]

How do you know that other dogs can't get in? Didn't you say that it was only a 4ft fence? That is nothing - just about any dog can scale that.

good point.sabrina can easily clear a 4ft fence she can even jump over the 8ft fence we have.

I realize that any other dog can scale our 4 ft fence. I think I mentioned that I am out with them when they are in the back yard. Even if I put up a chain spot and a dog cleared the fence, they can still get to our dogs. Are you saying that I should not play with them off a chain in our fenced back yard because a dog might jump my fence? If a dog around here jumps our fence it is a stray because the dogs in our neighborhood are either extremely fat or small. I guess I am not getting the point of the chain spot.

Ask him why he wants your dog to die.

If he keeps letting him loose in the front yard, he will likely get in a fight one day. When that happens, either the owner of the other dog will pull a gun and shoot your dog, or not. I'd avoid taking that chance, especially in the Memphis area.

Oh, if it helps, feel free to tell him that Anonymous Internet Man G.B. says he's being a dipshit.

Good luck

Lol....we do not live in Memphis...we live about an hour from there. Our neighborhood is not gangster...lol. Like I said...I do not really think he understands the severity of the situation. I will definetly tell him that you think he is being a dipshit!!! Thanks!

[sisimelanyk]

Please do not tell him anything any of us said...
since it is obvious he does not care what you think,,,, he will care even less what we think.... and he may begin to resent your being on here.... and we would not like that.... you have enough trouble already without adding us to your list...