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Old 01-08-2010, 03:32 PM   #1
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Thank you for being intelligent and understanding that this is not a breed issue, I never take my boy into a dog park and always walk with a muzzel. Only when I am positive we are alone do I remove it and stay well aware of my situation. And my dog has never shown aggresion towards people or animals. I appreciate your understanding.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:52 PM   #2
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Umm you needed to call the police. I've personally never called the cops for anything in my life, but this person is clearly semi retarded and obviously too stupid to know how to behave without being forced by authority. That dog needs to be placed in the hands of a responsible owner yesterday. I would also have zero problem with macing it should it approach you or your dog off leash again.

I agree beating the sh*t out of her would be a viable option, lol.
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:01 PM   #3
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I probably wouldn't have been as calm about it, either.
The dog needs to be in the hands of someone more breed savvy, and the owner needs to be slapped in the face. NO dog should be running around off leash where other dogs present, and that goes 10 fold dogs that are dog aggressive.
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:13 PM   #4
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I am extremely surprised (happily) at how the community and management are handling the situation. The other dog owners willing to help after an incident, the Pit Bull owners who are concerned and offering assistance and management not trying to ban a breed from the park but taking it up with the owner as is proper. Lovely lil community you have there!

I am happy that you and your dog are ok, but I would suggest you look into buying a break stick and learn how to use it. I had never heard of a break stick until I came here, but now I am a big fan. Even if you do not own a dog aggressive dog or a bully breed dog the break stick is good to have just in case of a scenario like you experienced. The stick is used to seperate the dogs fighting withut hurting them. It makes stopping a scuffle or fight faster and that means less injury to the dogs involved.

Heck, you could even print out the instructions, laminate them and post them with a couple extra sticks for the other community dog park users. The break sticks aren't at all expensive and very handy. Better to have a couple around an not need them than to need them and not have any.

I hope the owner of the offending dog gets her act together and keeps her dog away form other dogs and learns to manage its dog aggression, but I doubt it. Keep trying to educate her, though, as people can sometimes surprise you. Who cares if she feels harassed? Through her actions and inactions a dog and a human were injured and it could have been worse. That deserves some harassment.
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Old 01-08-2010, 05:51 PM   #5
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Thank you for being intelligent and understanding that this is not a breed issue, I never take my boy into a dog park and always walk with a muzzel. Only when I am positive we are alone do I remove it and stay well aware of my situation. And my dog has never shown aggresion towards people or animals. I appreciate your understanding.
Why do you muzzle your dog?
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:30 PM   #6
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People like this shouldnt own pits let alone any dog ,I agree I would have called the cops and pressed charges and I would have reported the bite, sad thing is if this dog had to be put down it would be better that than to leave him with this lady , who knows who the next dog or kid will be she obviously cant contain her dog or even know how to disipline I cant imagine seeing your dog attack and do nothing .
makes me so mad hearing this, Im very gald you and your dog are ok though coulda been alot worse
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:18 PM   #7
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I still have hope that someone will be able to get through to this young woman. If she would only accept a single gesture of good will it could save her dog any more trouble. I didn't want to report the bite and only two people know that my leg was unfortunate enough to find itself in between him and his intended. After reading on this site, it's clear that I went about getting him off in all the wrong ways. He didn't intend to attack me, it was my dog he was after. I did report the dog attack to animal control and there is now a record of that unfortunately. I'm not big on calling in authorities, but I wasn't left with much choice. It disturbs me deeply that the dog may someday pay the price for her stupidity. I don't give up so easily though, I will get through to her.
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:24 PM   #8
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I'm sorry but I still would have reported the dog bites to yourself even if he wasn't trying to attack you. The bites still happened. I can guarantee you that her dog probably wouldn't have walked out of that dog area if it would have been me and my dog. Glad you and your dog are ok.

Even with other pitbull type dogs in the community I think people should carry breaksticks. And maybe hang some breaksticks in the dog area.
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:01 PM   #9
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http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...47/detail.html

It did my heart good to read this story. I posted it under "In the news", but thought I'd put it here too.
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:14 PM   #10
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Hi, first of all I hope your dog recovers and has no long term issues from this. Second of all, your story right there is why i think all dog parks should be destroyed. In my opinion they are bad news, regardless of breed. There will always be some irresponsible owner trying to use one. I understand this is not a public dog park but part of your community but at the same time, dog parks are bad news. I do hope this lady will be paying your vet bills since her dog caused the damage.
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:22 PM   #11
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Thank you all for your good wishes, so far my dog is looking good & recovering fine. It's ok if she doesn't pay the vet bills, I'm big on second chances, someone gave me one once. I'd like to think I'll do the same for others. Hopefully she'll come to her senses very soon.
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:58 AM   #12
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We'd love to see pics of you dog!
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:37 PM   #13
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Default An ignorant owner mess-sorry long story
Thank you for your advice in the intro threads. Here is the story of what happened last weekend & the background info: A new resident moved into the community with her pit bull. She walks her dog through the common buildings, across the grounds into the fenced dog area without a leash. She tells him to come along repeatedly, he lags and wanders around. He's kind of rude, bumping past people. She doesn't seem to notice. She's asked to leash her dog in the common buildings and grounds. She ignores this. Day one he entered the dog area and sniffed every butt. He nose or chest shoves the other dogs from behind, he stands over them from behind then walks around in front and stares at them. When a new dog enters doesn't go over to greet with the others, he waits and goes in front of it and stares. I take my dogs inside. One person explained to the owner that they had observed some behaviors that are of concern and that they would go back home when her dog arrives. She says that's their option, she takes her dog to dog parks and he has no issues, oh, except those greyhounds and the weimaraners and any high energy dogs. In any case she has no interest in hearing about it. One day she arrives with the big guy and a bag of toys which she is tossing about. Her dog has little interest and is busy scoping out the yard. I'm leashing up and fixing to leave. She tosses a ball into a group of dogs, most ignore it - mine sniffs it and picks it up. I don't even have to look, I tell her to drop it and come. She does. Too late, he is moving toward her and staring hard. He looks at me and walks away. I leash my dogs and walk toward the door, he's already made the turn and is coming up from the side. No rush, just deliberate movement and that stare. I push my dog through the door and tell the owner I want to discuss this with her. She says "What?He didn't do anything!" People start going inside. Some people say they're going to try and speak with her. Days later I enter the dog area with one dog on a leash. I check the area, only three little dogs there so I release her. She pees and comes by my side as I say hi to the other owners. She sits down. Moments later something brushes my leg. The pit has arrived and come around my leg from behind, no noise, no tags, no growling - silence. Suddenly he is in front of my dog and before I can process anything he lunges (so fast!) grabbing her by the throat. Now there is noise and I'm on the ground knocked down when I grab at the tiny nylon collar he is wearing. I hold on and get up only to go down again. He is shaking my 45 pound dog back and forth. I get up and grab the sides of his neck to stop him and he charges forward holding her by the throat and pushes her to the ground and pins her. I grab the collar. She is writhing and her screams are getting higher and higher. He won't let go. The owner is standing about ten feet way doing nothing. I'm yelling for her to get her dog off. I'm afraid to let go and as he tries to adjust his grip my dog wriggles out and crawls under a bush. As I hold him back he drags me toward her. There is blood on my hand, on my pants, on the cement path. Everyone is screaming at the owner to control her dog. She comes over and takes him by the collar and calls him a bad boy. Then she lets him go. Another owner grabs him. I'm now under the bush trying to get my dog and check her out. I yell and curse at her and tell her to take him inside and that I better not see her out here again. They leave. The Community: Dog friendly multi family (400 homes) 150+ dogs at least. All breeds, sizes, etc. Amenities include large, landscaped, fenced & lighted dog play areas where people set up wading pools, sprinklers and agility equipment. Dogs are welcome in all buildings, trails, etc. The People: Diverse crowd, different ages, some with children, many not. Good people here always willing to help new folks or new puppy owners. A "Live and Let Live" group overall. The Rules: Nothing official, evolved out of consideration for others. No toys or food or children in dog areas. Smaller area typically used for small/tiny dogs and after 8:00 pm & used by owners who would prefer their dogs not play in a group. They seem to have worked their own schedule out. There are pit bulls and pit bull mixes here. Nobody asks about breed, it's not an issue. We have not had one problem with any pit bull. Those owners strive to be known as responsible and they're knowledgeable. They are angry about this and worried it will bring some backlash their way. Some share pet sit/walk with each other, others walk their dogs every evening together. If they use the dog area it is after 8:00 and it's one dog at a time. Nobody wrote any of this down anywhere, nobody had to. Except for the deaf dalmatian. His owner wanted help though and an anonymous donor here paid for 10 private training sessions. That's the type of place this is. I'll post the aftermath story in the next thread as this seems so long. Thank you all again for your consideration.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:47 PM   #14
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First, you should have beat the piss out of her and her dog. Second, handle everything else.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:54 PM   #15
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I'd print off stickies of the information you find here, putting them in her hands is a lot simpler than trying to direct her here. Then she can't find ways to avoid her problem, she's got the solution right in her face. If I were you, I'd find out her name and address and send her the vet bills. And, avoid dog parks altogether. You can't be responsible for her actions or her dog's actions, but you can take a proactive step and find a new place to exercise your pups without worrying about a dog attack. Her dog is only doing what comes naturally to him, and all she's doing is setting him up for failure.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:56 PM   #16
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This damn thread is the reason I'm against everybody and anybody owning these dogs. But there are some here who considers me wrong for my POV.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:26 PM   #17
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The Aftermath: My dog to the vet, will be fine. Punctures healing, no tearing inside throat, just swelling which is down now. Reported the incident to the community office. This is not a public park, it is maintained at the expense of the community for the exclusive use of the community. The managers gave her a copy of the vet bill and have repeatedly asked her to come in and discuss the issue with me. She has not responded. People have knocked on her door and tried to speak with her to no avail. I was left no option in the end but to report the incident. The officers investigated. The dog is current on vaccine but not licensed. No previous complaints "under her name". The dog first shows up in the county vaccinations in 2009. Nobody knows anything before that. She'll only say she rescued him. The dog is 3+ years old and was neutered in 2009. Glad to say that there has been no backlash against other dogs or their owners. The officers left her with a warning for license violation and instruction to restrain. This is a 'one bite' state. I did not report the bites to my leg as I probably was going about it all wrong, just in his way and he really wasn't interested in biting me in the first place. I hope he has every chance to a happy life, but with the owner I'm doubtful. I will leave the articles and this site by her door in the hopes she'll read them. She'll probably think she is being harassed. As of now the managers have informed her she may not enter the dog area, the dog must be leashed, licensed and walked in particular areas only. The other pit bull owners have sent messages to her via the community office. They say they'll show her how to properly manage her dog. So far no response.
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Old 08-01-2010, 12:42 AM   #18
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I hope your dog recovers ok. I hate stupid people. You are handling this a lot better than I would have.
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