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Old 07-28-2010, 11:14 PM   #1
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So im buying a pitbull puppy tonight
I asked the guy which kind of pitbull he is and he said something like the gotti line.
After checking online he didnt look like all the other dogs that came up in the search so i was hoping someone could help me identify which kind he is.
here are some pictures i took from my cell phone
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:29 PM   #2
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if it is gotti... it is an am bully and not a pitbull...
it may be your pics,.... but something does not look right with those front legs....
or it could be my old eyes...
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:35 PM   #3
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From what I know, Gotti is not a pit, it's an American Bully. Are you set on getting this pup? I would reconsider buying this pup because you will just be supporting bad breeders. Please do a lot more research and hang around here a bit more before getting a pup

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if it is gotti... it is an am bully and not a pitbull...
it may be your pics,.... but something does not look right with those front legs....
or it could be my old eyes...
I agree about the legs. I was staring at the pup for a few minutes and there's something off. I'm not sure what it is but OP, see if the pups have been to a vet.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:39 PM   #4
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I honestly would not get that dog and razors edge is an american bully line. He looks like he is knuckling over.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:43 PM   #5
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How did you find this guy? Does he have any references or anyone that you can talk to that has gotten any pups from him before? Do you know if he's taken them to the vet, or do you know anything about the parents of the pups?

It's bad to support the BYB's, but at the same time, if this is the pup you want, then it's hard to tell your heart no. If you don't get it, chances are, it will go to who knows what kind of person, and face who knows what kind of future. It's a tough call. I'm so glad I have the dogs I have, but only Mollie came from a BYB as far as I know. She was a Christmas present my daughters ex boyfriend got for her, so I know nothing about who had her, but I'm sure they weren't reputable breeders. That being said, I cannot imagine my life without her, she's gotten me through some pretty rough times.

If you are wanting a pup from a reputable breeder, and plan on showing it, I'd say skip this guy. It's a tough call, and if you've already fallen in love with her, an even tougher one. Think it through before making a final decision, but if this is a BYB, don't send any business his way.
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:43 PM   #6
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Something does not look right with those puppies, front feet are splayed looking, boney and bloated tummy.. do they have a pedigree proving their lineage? Because they don't look like any gotti puppies I've seen. Gottie is American Bully not pit bull anyway.


I really suggest you do the hard thing and not get this puppy, just doesn't seem like the best breeder... Is he giving you a health guarantee at least?

I also suggest you let the people here point you in the right direction for a good breeder of the breed you want..
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:47 PM   #7
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What happened with getting the puppy from the pound?
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:50 PM   #8
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I talked to him and i went to the house and saw the parents and they looked healthy, fine, and very obedient. He seemed to know what he was doing, he had given them their first shots, dewormed, and even allowed me to come back to him for the new few shots and deworming. He has been breeding for a while now, showing me pictures of the other litters hes had, and there have been a lot of people buying from him. I already put down some money on him and plan on going back to get the puppy later. Im planning on training and raising the puppy as a companion dog, not for fighting definitely. He said breeding was a hobby and brought out some "rollers", these birds he threw up and they did a flip and flew baack to his backyard. What do u guys see wrong with the front legs? I cant see it because im not expereinced with dogs

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What happened with getting the puppy from the pound?
Nothing, but at 4 months, according to some stickies, hes been through his behavioral structure stage, and at that time he was a stray dog, and has been sitting in the pound. I couldnt get him till tmw, because he was on hold, and id have to pick him up on friday because the surgeon was leaving early on thursday. Not knowing anything about the dog from the pound i was unsure after thinking it over, and i felt that having this puppy, about 8 weeks old would be better and easier to raise
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:58 PM   #9
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Wreck, any puppy is a crapshot, genetics come into play as much as upbringing, my puppy had very friendly ancestors, and he was raised right completely and he has matured into a monster... He's a GSD and I wish I rescued a hell of a lot more now that I have him...

This will teach you about conformation, go down a bit until you see the picture depicting the feet to see what I mean.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:03 AM   #10
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Does this "breeder" have any papers on his dogs, or a pedigree to show you? If not, I wouldn't get the pup.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:18 AM   #11
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Those dogs are a mess.Go get your money back.

Take your time and find the right dog.The prospect of getting a puppy is exciting and the urge is hard to resist,but you'll be better off in the long run...
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:20 AM   #12
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Hmmm what to do x_____x
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:24 AM   #13
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Those dogs don't look right, and Gotti is AmBully not APBT. Though, they don't look like Gotti dogs like somebody else said above. I would take anything this "breeder" says with a massive grain of salt.

Nothing wrong with rescueing a dog. Hell, I got Sinead at 3 years and she's the perfect dog. I got Mick at five months and I used to have a dog that I rescued at 4 months. It's still a young dog.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:27 AM   #14
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What are the potential problems with splayed feet.
He did mention that the feet were bigger than normal but i didnt think it would be bad.
I dont know about the papers, but he has this little booklet that indicates the DOB and the shots given and which shots need to be given and on what day.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:28 AM   #15
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He said breeding was a hobby...
Building plastic models of cars is a hobby. That's all I'm gonna say.

You never know what your going to get, but if you pull one out of a shelter that's one less dog waiting on a needle.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:28 AM   #16
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I dont know about the papers, but he has this little booklet that indicates the DOB and the shots given and which shots need to be given and on what day.
Both of my rescue Border Collies came with that same booklet. Only one came with papers, though.

That booklet is just to keep track of the dog's vet stuff. Has nothing to do with registration papers. It's nothing official.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:32 AM   #17
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Those dogs are a mess.Go get your money back.

Take your time and find the right dog.The prospect of getting a puppy is exciting and the urge is hard to resist,but you'll be better off in the long run...
Agreed. As the others said gotti is an american bully line people often call them "pit bulls" but it is not a true american pit bull terrier. Those pups do not look gotti to me, but you can't know unless you have a pedigree from a reputable kennel club stating what the dogs lines are (and even then it can be tricky with all these hung papers going around).

Do some more research on the breed and on breeders themselves. I can tell you this right now you are buying from a backyard breeder. Those pups health tested? Did you see the parents? Any titles? Papers? There is info in the health breeder section on how to pick a good breeder please read through that. We are willing to help and answer any questions.

Good luck!
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:49 AM   #18
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definitely a little bump on the front legs, and splayed toes. If you're planning on showing or anything I would not get this pup. I agree with the others, you should ask for papers, and maybe even lineage.
However if you're just looking for a companion, it's your dog, but be prepared to have a good vet close by, you never know what was bred into his genes.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:52 AM   #19
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Hmmm, well if were to get him, what are some questions i should be asking and what kind of answers should i be expecting? Anything else i should expect from him? What are some surefire ways to tell that the dogs a no go, because im somewhat set on this dog, not to be ignorant or anything like that, its just kinda how i feel.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:58 AM   #20
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Read through this.
Backyard Breeder vs Reputable Breeder


Ask for pedigrees proving lineage, if he avoids the questions or can't come up with papers, there's a sure sign he's breeding plain old mutts...

Ask what health testing he has done to BOTH parents.

Ask what titles (in show and/or work) he has on both parents.

Ask what his health guarantee for the puppies consists of.

Does he even have a puppy buying contract? If so, read through it..


Getting a dog from a bad breeder can set you up for a lifetime of temperamental or health problems with the dog. Take your time and be careful..
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