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Old 07-23-2010, 09:02 PM   #1
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I'm seriously looking into possibly getting one. I LOVE these dogs! They are beautiful and said to be one of the best gaurd dog breeds out there. I need a good gaurd dog, because of the recent crack dealers moving down my road, and they seem (by the info I read on google) they would fit perfectly into my life. Its a big dog I know, and needs space, but we have 17 acres so that isnt a problem. I can make a chain spot if need be for him.. The only thing is I worried about him and Cleo not getting along. Are they usually DA? Anyone have any personal experiance with this breed? Any info is appreciated!
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:29 PM   #2
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Not much point having a guard dog if you have to chain him.

They are good dogs but I think they are made out to be better than they actually are. In general they are ok as guard dogs but their appearance is usually what does most. There are some exceptional dogs but a lot of the stuff now is bred for show and the ones over there that are working dogs are a lot bigger than the ones we have here.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:37 PM   #3
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I fostered one, they are not made to be chainedoutside. They are companion dogs that have very high territorial and protective instincts. They bond very close to the family and love to be near them. There are different lines, you have the show lines which many say changed the breed and they call them Dogo Canarios, basically what the amstaff is to the APBT. The Dogo Canario were bred exclusively for show and looks therefore their robust figure has ruined their performance ability. The working lines which are the best can be too much dog for the average owner, they are extremely territorial and could be extremely dog agressive. They were bred to work as catchdogs and watchdogs however some fought them so the lineage can have severe dog agression.

In my opinion this type of dog needs a single pet home because there is a lot to learn about this breed. This dog is stubborn and it will try to test you, I think they are beautiful dogs but you have to get them from a quality breeder that health tests and temperament tests them. They are extremely strong when they are grown so if you need to establish your leadership or lots of problems can arise.

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by the way I forgot to add that this dog was around 120 pounds and he was only 9 months old.
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Old 07-24-2010, 01:29 AM   #4
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I saw one at the dog park once, yep the dog park. IT WAS FRIGGIN HUGE.
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Old 07-24-2010, 03:37 AM   #5
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I'd like one someday. My vet's son breeds them so my vet talks about them a lot since she provides all their medical care (one of the benefits of having a vet for a mom), and I've met a few. They are a lot of dog to handle, and I can honestly say that it'll be a long time before I ever get one, there's a lot of other breeds that rank higher on the list of dogs I'd like to own.

For now my Rottie is the only guard dog I need.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:26 AM   #6
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I absolutely love the Canary dog and for the longest time that was /the dog/ for me but I've yet to be in a situation where I'd have the space for such a big dog and since they are a lot of dog to handle, I've decided that the breed isn't suited for me at this time.
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:22 AM   #7
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I'm seriously looking into possibly getting one. I LOVE these dogs! They are beautiful and said to be one of the best gaurd dog breeds out there. I need a good gaurd dog, because of the recent crack dealers moving down my road, and they seem (by the info I read on google) they would fit perfectly into my life. Its a big dog I know, and needs space, but we have 17 acres so that isnt a problem. I can make a chain spot if need be for him.. The only thing is I worried about him and Cleo not getting along. Are they usually DA? Anyone have any personal experiance with this breed? Any info is appreciated!
You have acreage so this dog would be perfect for you and your family. I don't have your huge property so I can't have one.

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Old 07-24-2010, 05:39 AM   #8
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Thanks for the info guys!
The reason I said set up a chain spot is because I have a 4 foot fenced in yard, and the dog being that big, it could clear it really easy right? Maybe a privacy fence is a better addition??
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:11 AM   #9
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You want this dog to bond with you and your family so it will recognize you as it's pack to protect you. They become extremely distrustful of strangers so once again this dog wasn't built to be kept outside away from the family on a chain spot. If you get a high privacy fence it would be a better scenario but once again this breed is not a gamedog that will be happy being tied to a chain outside away from the family. You also need to meet to breed in person to know what I mean. These dogs are a lot to handle and a bully is nothing close in comparison to this breed. The second it realizes you are intimidated by it, the dog will set the rules.

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I had a cane corso test me and let me tell you it wasn't a good feeling and that dog was only 100 pounds. If this presa tested me I would have fainted lol I wouldn't mind owning one in the future when I have a huge yard and when he is the only hard working breed I own at the time.

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Thanks for the info guys!
The reason I said set up a chain spot is because I have a 4 foot fenced in yard, and the dog being that big, it could clear it really easy right? Maybe a privacy fence is a better addition??
A 50 pound pit dog can clear a four foot fence. The breed tends to be extremely territorial so it is not going to take off after a threat rather set up post and defend the perimeter. Howver, if it identifies a threat tha gets away and you do not have control it could def go after it and it won't be pretty.
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Old 07-24-2010, 06:35 AM   #10
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my brother has one.at first i was a little skeptical,but i really like her.she is pretty mellow though.my dogs run circles around her...literally
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:58 PM   #11
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This is one day I would want in the future but not any near yet. I'm too occupied with my gamedogs.
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Old 07-25-2010, 10:47 PM   #12
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I have a good friend that has one that he got from a reputable breeder and I can tell you right now that the presa canario is a dog you may want to reconsider as a guard dog. The reason for this is because they are very much similar towards a rottweiler, they are very rank driven and you need to have a lot of experience with dominant dogs. The rottweiler, presa canario, and other rank driven breeds I would avoid, especially for a guard dog since yes they will protect you even without training since it is their nature. However, if the guy has a weapon and starts beating your dog, the dog will run away. This is also true even for fight driven dogs, but it is far more likely for rank driven dogs. Also the rank driven dogs are harder to train and you need to have a lot of experience. If you want a guard dog, I recommend a bandog, fila brasileiro, or a working dogue de bourdeaux. These dogs are not rank driven and are also extremely protective. However, I recommend getting your dogs personal protection training because no matter what the breed, if the dog isn't trained and taught, the dog will still bail when the going gets rough, though the three breeds I listed are not as likely to hall ass on you.

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btw, if you are really interested in the presa canario, I can give you the website of the breeder that my friend got his dog from. I went with him there personally when he picked out his pup and I also had a chance to interact with them. They are really good dogs and I'd recommend them for any mastiff lover that wants a smaller mastiff.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:21 PM   #13
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Regarding drive in training.. I got a dog of a man I met in a dogshow that trains his dog in personal protection and there is this instance that the target is on a running car.. the pitbull rank after the pickup and jumps but come up short head first. He is stunned but went back and finish it task. It's on quality that you can onyl find in a pitbull. I believe in that scenario if some doberman got that accident or beating.. he might just stood there.. it got a youtube vid.. I'll post later.. let me look for it first. hehe.
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:17 AM   #14
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Regarding drive in training.. I got a dog of a man I met in a dogshow that trains his dog in personal protection and there is this instance that the target is on a running car.. the pitbull rank after the pickup and jumps but come up short head first. He is stunned but went back and finish it task. It's on quality that you can onyl find in a pitbull. I believe in that scenario if some doberman got that accident or beating.. he might just stood there.. it got a youtube vid.. I'll post later.. let me look for it first. hehe.
No necessarily true. Indeed an apbt would finish their task because they aren't rank driven but fight driven. I'm not sure of the doberman but the dogue de bourdeaux, fila, and bandog would definitely have done the same as they are fight driven too. Though they certainly might come up short in the speed department, they'll still fight on and not back down. One thing that is worth mentioning is that rank driven dogs like the rottie and presa might be fine going against one intruder, but when there are two or three intruders, they tend to be intimidated and instead of going forward and standing their ground, they tend to bare teeth and back up. This is why I'd go for fight driven dogs instead of rank driven dogs.
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:56 AM   #15
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i want to see this video you speak of...
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:52 PM   #16
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I've met a few Presas. One at its home, a female. She was barked when we approached the gate, but as soon as the owner was out, she turned into a wiggle butt wanting to be petted. 2nd was a HUGE male. He was at the park and was aloof, but could be petted. Then some at a rare breed show I went to for the Dogo.

They are starting to show up in shelters more and more. Had a gorgeous female w/ cropped ears a few months ago down in Miami. That shelter gets all my favorite dogs!

From what I'm seen, they are very family orientated like everyone else says and IMO should be an indoor family dog. If you want it to get along with your dog, a puppy of the opposite sex would be best.
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Old 07-26-2010, 03:41 PM   #17
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They are nothing like bulldogs and not for the pushover. But, they can be great dogs. Your best bet is to join El Presa forum and speak to them.
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