[Peptobismol]

May be a stupid question, but i read a lot of people on here want us to
"close the circle"
and the whole
"proven dogs to proven people"

Could someone explain to me what's meant by that?

[DJkillos]

It means to stop selling or giving these dogs to just anyone. It means that just because someone is nice and has taken great care of their Yorkiepoodiddle, it doesn't mean that they need to let their heart bleed all over a "pit bull" so they can cry over the injustice of it all.

It means keep these dogs in the hands of the people that have proven they are responsible enough and passionate enough to own them.

Personally, I'd rather see the APBT die off than become what it's on the road to becoming. Even if it means I won't ever own another APBT, I'd rather that the see the world become even more flooded with all the English Bulldog wanna-bes and other grotesque creations that are called "pit bulls".

[Ervntewc]

Personally, I'd rather see the APBT die off than become what it's on the road to becoming. Even if it means I won't ever own another APBT, I'd rather that the see the world become even more flooded with all the English Bulldog wanna-bes and other grotesque creations that are called "pit bulls".

As sad as this is, I agree with this. Because of greed and poor dog ownership and breeding a great breed is literally dying in front of us. The madness has to end somewhere.

[ephennaCypota]

It means to stop selling or giving these dogs to just anyone. It means that just because someone is nice and has taken great care of their Yorkiepoodiddle, it doesn't mean that they need to let their heart bleed all over a "pit bull" so they can cry over the injustice of it all.

It means keep these dogs in the hands of the people that have proven they are responsible enough and passionate enough to own them.

Personally, I'd rather see the APBT die off than become what it's on the road to becoming. Even if it means I won't ever own another APBT, I'd rather that the see the world become even more flooded with all the English Bulldog wanna-bes and other grotesque creations that are called "pit bulls".

[Thifiadardivy]

too many of these dogs are in the hands of irresponsible folks.. it is now our job, the job of those who love and care for this breed to see to it that the situation does not get worse.. make sure that we do not contribute to the problem and that only folks who have the ability and knowledge to properly handle and care for these dogs get them..
quit supporting no kill shelters and pounds who take these dogs and give them to fur mommies who will not handle them correctly... and in the long run contribute to the ever increasing bad reputation that the dogs do not deserve...and BSL...

[ehib8yPc]

Close the circle.

[insoneeri]

sounds very much like your trying to shut the door after the horse has bolted...........
had some of these so called " good ol boys " been a touch more responsible and less plain greedy you might not be having this conversation.......we had the same over here and it proved too late for us as well.
i guess some things just have to get worse before they can get better.....

[ehib8yPc]

we can always shut the door change the name and not let the other horses out.

[MyOwnStyle]

I agree with Mia. I'd rather never own another APBT in my life than see it become a shell of its former self, i.e. a lab with APBT clothing.

[aabbaDE]

too quit supporting no kill shelters and pounds who take these dogs and give them to fur mommies who will not handle them correctly... and in the long run contribute to the ever increasing bad reputation that the dogs do not deserve...and BSL...

Well, I think irresponsible dog ownership and bad dog owners in general span further than fur mommies. Lots of irresponsible men out there too.

[NikolaAAA]

Okay but my question is if you close the circle what about the future people who may not have had an APBT but are serious about the breed and would like to own one and are responsible dog owners. Well then they will never get the chance to have the wonderful breed known as the APBT. Just a thought. I mean if you close the circle eventually all the current responsible known APBT people will one day die off and then there will be no new people to take on the breed. Couldn't that in the end hurt the breed more. I mean when I see people say close the circle its almost like they are saying if you haven't owned an APBT than you shouldn't. Just a thought.

[ehib8yPc]

You can take on apprentices and pass em on to your children nephews nieces or whatever...

[Chooriwrocafn]

I think that certian people are suited to own APBTs... it's just a matter of finding them. Sometimes people seem great but aren't. It's just so hard to know!

[VIAGRA-VIAGRA]

I mean when I see people say close the circle its almost like they are saying if you haven't owned an APBT than you shouldn't. Just a thought.

Don't forget that some people use sayings like that never stopping to think that some number of years before hand they were on the outside of the circle.

It's kind of like the people who play WoW or GW and like to run around calling everyone "noobs" never stopping to think that at some point in time they were one too.

People with some common sense, prior experience with animals, and who pay attention to what they hell they are doing will educate themselves and be able to manage whatever breed you throw at them.

Unfortunately those are often not the kind of people who end up getting dogs like Doberman's, APBT's, Mastiff's, and so on.

[Immusaatmonna]

close the circle means just that.

weed out the dipshits.

these dogs are better off on a dogman or sportsmens yard. no need to be "pets", i myself have pet-bulls also, but making these dogs into "pets" is ultimately what got them here in the 1st place.

[ehib8yPc]

Close the circle doesn't mean you can't "get into" the circle just means don't give or sell the dogs willy-nilly.

[olivelappers]

Close the circles folk's! This breed is not meant for everyone! And as offensive as some ppl have found that saying to be..phishhh lol. I'm just glad to see ppl catching on.

[VIAGRA-VIAGRA]

Close the circles folk's! This breed is not meant for everyone! And as offensive as some ppl have found that saying to be..phishhh lol. I'm just glad to see ppl catching on.

Oh hell, there are plenty of "everyone's" out there that shouldn't even have a pet rock. It's not just this breed that needs better management.

[Immusaatmonna]

Close the circle doesn't mean you can't "get into" the circle just means don't give or sell the dogs willy-nilly.

yea but why would you want to, unless you already have a commitment to the breed why go down that ugly road of negative attention,bsl,witch hunts?

---------- Post added at 07:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:05 PM ----------

Close the circles folk's! This breed is not meant for everyone! And as offensive as some ppl have found that saying to be..phishhh lol.

agreed_______

[ehib8yPc]

Like was stated we ain't going to be around forever and all of us ain't grow up with the dogs they only found us later in life... now if a person came to me to talk dogs and already knew what they were about and what blood they wanted and all the basics but didn't have any or whatever then I would consider that person to be in already (doesn't mean I'd hook them up with a dog, though) but the youngins comming up should have the chance to know them too, and it would be good to pass the torch.