[ChexEcodece]

I talked to the vet this morning (wasn't able to talk to her when I picked him up because she was busy w/an emergency)

Anyway, while he was able to keep the tooth, there may be a hairline fracture in the jawbone. The x-rays have been sent out, but they won't have the results until probably Tuesday.

So Nick is on a soft food diet for a few weeks.
I browned up some ground beef and mixed in some egg. I also boiled some baby carrots (which he LOVES) and treats.

Is this diet okay for a few weeks, or should I get some canned dog food, and if so, what brand?

We usually feed dry Kirklands lamb & rice with a tablespoon of cottage cheese.

I also posted this question in the health section, but don't know who reads what.

Thanks!

Boiled ground beef mixed with eggs and carrots are fine for a few weeks. beef is a great source of protein and rich in many micronutriets, including B vitamins and zinc. Eggs contribute additional protein as well as further micronutrients. The Carrots are a good source for vitamin A and vitamin C. This diet is pretty good and can be fed for a few weeks. I'd rather feed this diet for a few weeks then to commercial brand dog food to my dog for a few weeks.

[saturninus.ribb]

That's kinda what I was thinking. I know the carrots are good for them. Both dogs love raw carrots, but when I have them a cooked one last night, they went nuts over them! They both love veggies.
Thanks!

[ChexEcodece]

That's kinda what I was thinking. I know the carrots are good for them. Both dogs love raw carrots, but when I have them a cooked one last night, they went nuts over them! They both love veggies.
Thanks!

You're welcome, oh and also the choice of dogfood you are using, I recommend a higher brand. I feed Wellness Core, Innove Evo, and Orijen.

[SallyIsNice5]

Poor boy. I am so sorry this happened. I hope he feels better soon. That lady sounds like an irresponsible owner and shouldn't have dogs.

[saturninus.ribb]

Poor boy. I am so sorry this happened. I hope he feels better soon. That lady sounds like an irresponsible owner and shouldn't have dogs.

Thanks! I agree!
I e-mailed the local shelter to find out who, if anyone I should contact, they just replied with a number to call. So I'll be reporting it shortly.


You're welcome, oh and also the choice of dogfood you are using, I recommend a higher brand. I feed Wellness Core, Innove Evo, and Orijen. We had them on Veterinarys Formula, and compared labels with Kirkland and they appear to be very similar. The dogs look good and are healthy, and since we're on a pretty tight budget right now, they'll have to stay on that for now. I have thought about switching, but it's going to have to wait a little while.

[ChexEcodece]

We had them on Veterinarys Formula, and compared labels with Kirkland and they appear to be very similar. The dogs look good and are healthy, and since we're on a pretty tight budget right now, they'll have to stay on that for now. I have thought about switching, but it's going to have to wait a little while.

Thing is with veterinary formulas are, the vets are being paid to endorse these brands. How much are you paying for kirklands? Innova Evo, Wellness Core, and Orijen tend to be pricy, but they are also the top of the line and the cleanup is a lot less.

[saturninus.ribb]

I think Kirkland is about $25/40lbs. I was mistaken, we feed chicken & rice, not lamb & rice.
It's first ingrediants are:
Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat, egg product, beet pulp, potatoes, fish meal, flax seed..

[ChexEcodece]

I think Kirkland is about $25/40lbs. I was mistaken, we feed chicken & rice, not lamb & rice.
It's first ingrediants are:
Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, cracked pearled barley, chicken fat, egg product, beet pulp, potatoes, fish meal, flax seed..

beet pulp is a filler, fish meal has ethoxyquin unless if the company has a special permit, egg product is pretty much grounded up shells and w/e egg white is left in there, barley is considered filler. However, this is actually better than most crap out there too LOL. If it works for you, go for it. Though I'd be wary of the fishmeal.

[8IhGpvH0]

I'm not trying to get on your case, but in your own words you don't have one! your also are blowing this minor scuffle way out of proportion! I feel you gave up the right to get money for your vet bills when the woman asked you if your dogs are ok, AND YOU SAID YES!
Also your vet didn't do anything for you or your dog except, RIP YOU OFF!
Super glue costs less than 3 bucks and thats all you would have needed to set that loose tooth. You didn't need expensive x rays, follow up visits, anti inflammatory drugs and what ever else your vet charged you for!
You also mentioned that you didn't really know and you suspected that she may have dropped the leash, well it could have happened that way, but you said you didn't really know! Now walking two large dogs at the same time isn't the easiest thing to do especially for a woman and that may have been irresponsible on her part, but you were doing the same thing! With a breed thats pound for pound the strongest canines this world knows! With a sprained elbow no less!
All I can say is SHIT HAPPENS! The woman lost control of her dog. You can't tell me your dog has never accidently yanked the leash out of your hand before, can you? It happens to everybody! Dogs will be dogs and there is no absolutes. I feel the woman is not really to blame if you truly think about it!
I also feel the expensive vet bills are your responsibilty for being paranoid at the sight of blood and a loose tooth!

[Shipsyspeepay]

WOW Yardgirl..... you are a piece of work for sure. The idiot that DROPPED the leash meaning her dog was equivalent to being off leash is at fault.

Red slab fractured her K9 catching a rock that she had scuffed....Anyway....we left it and are waiting until there are problems to remove it....more than likely there won't ever be a problem with it!

Good luck and turn that lady in!!

Courtney

[saturninus.ribb]

I'm not trying to get on your case, but in your own words you don't have one! your also are blowing this minor scuffle way out of proportion! I feel you gave up the right to get money for your vet bills when the woman asked you if your dogs are ok, AND YOU SAID YES!
My first thought was to get my dogs away from her dogs, since she could not control them. I checked my dog over and on the outside, he is fine.
I'm more concerned about that dog getting loose agian and hurting another dog. If it goes after a small dog, it could very easily kill it.. Which is exactly what I told the police officer today.

Also your vet didn't do anything for you or your dog except, RIP YOU OFF!
Super glue costs less than 3 bucks and thats all you would have needed to set that loose tooth. You didn't need expensive x rays, follow up visits, anti inflammatory drugs and what ever else your vet charged you for!
My dog was/is in a lot of pain and he has a lot of swelling...so yes, he did need the drugs. I didn't know the extent of the injury and wanted to know what I was dealing with. I have been around animals my whole life and know what can happen with unattended injury. I have and always will go with "when in doubt, call the vet"
I would much rather call the vet and have a new injury checked out than to let it go and possibly get infected then have the vet look at it.
I am still paying the price (and I don't mean money) of not insisting my vet do more testing on a horse that I thought MIGHT have something wrong with her, but there was nothing obvious.
You can use all the super glue you want on your animals. My animals will see the vet and be treated properly by a professional.

You also mentioned that you didn't really know and you suspected that she may have dropped the leash, well it could have happened that way, but you said you didn't really know! Now walking two large dogs at the same time isn't the easiest thing to do especially for a woman and that may have been irresponsible on her part, but you were doing the same thing! With a breed thats pound for pound the strongest canines this world knows! With a sprained elbow no less!
It doesn't matter if she dropped it, or if the dog yanked it out of her hand. Either way, the dog got loose, and she had no control over it.
Yes, I was walking two large dogs, with prong collars and had control over them.
All I can say is SHIT HAPPENS! The woman lost control of her dog. You can't tell me your dog has never accidently yanked the leash out of your hand before, can you?
Actually, yes I can say that. I walk both of my dogs together a lot and I have never had a leash yanked out of my hand.
It happens to everybody! Dogs will be dogs and there is no absolutes. I feel the woman is not really to blame if you truly think about it!
Yes, dogs will be dogs. But she did loose control of her dog, which means she is to blame. If she could have maintained contol, nothing would have happened.
I also feel the expensive vet bills are your responsibilty for being paranoid at the sight of blood and a loose tooth!

Paranoid at the sight of blood? Now that's funny. I have been present at, and assisted in the birth of several foals, I assisted my vet in the surgery of one of my horses and was present for others. I have removed many stitches from animals, I have helped friend doctor their injuried animals...I could go on, but I think you get the picture.
Blood doesn't bother me, and I'm far from paranoid about it. After all the mysterious illnesses a horses of mine had, I welcome the sight of blood, because I KNOW where it's coming from.

[8IhGpvH0]

The way I look at it, is It's a risk anyone takes when walking there dogs in public!
About your dogs injuries? You did not have to take him to a vet! An Aspirin would have taken care of the pain and swelling! It was a needless and expensive choice you made for your piece of mind for a dog that was hardly injured. therefore I feel you should pay for it! JMHO

[Sniliabiz]

The way I look at it, is It's a risk anyone takes when walking there dogs in public!
About your dogs injuries? You did not have to take him to a vet! An Aspirin would have taken care of the pain and swelling! It was a needless and expensive choice you made for your piece of mind for a dog that was hardly injured. therefore I feel you should pay for it! JMHO

Seriously?? I mean....Seriously? I don't even know what to say to that..... Wait actually yes I do...

If I'm walking a dog and I KNOW I can't finally it (i.e. the woman with the Ridgebacks) umm I'm not going to walk TWO of them! Whether she dropped the leash or the leash came out of her hand it's HER dog that got away from her and caused the injuries.
As for Kit taking her dog to the vet, well that's what a normal person would of done I think.

[envenonearo]

The way I look at it, is It's a risk anyone takes when walking there dogs in public!
About your dogs injuries? You did not have to take him to a vet! An Aspirin would have taken care of the pain and swelling! It was a needless and expensive choice you made for your piece of mind for a dog that was hardly injured. therefore I feel you should pay for it! JMHO

You can't be serious, this is a joke right. You are condemning the OP for getting proper veterinary care for her injured dog? Am I missing something? Who in their right mind isn't going to get vet care when their dog has been in a fight, and is bleeding, and a tooth appears to be injured? Yardgirl, I feel sorry for any animal that is in your care, and hope that none of them ever get injured. The fact that you recommended superglue for a loose tooth, well that just takes the cake. JMHO.

[Zvssxstw]

Yardgirl, I'm the last person to be all like "OMG, rush the dog to the vet." Hell, I mean I keep a stockpile of antibiotics, painkillers, bandages, etc on hand to avoid taking my dog to the vet for non-serious injuries.

But in the case of a broken tooth like that? Hell, yeah, I'd be taking my dog to the vet. I'm not a doggie dentist. Taking the dog to the vet is the responsible way to handle it.

[ChexEcodece]

The way I look at it, is It's a risk anyone takes when walking there dogs in public!
About your dogs injuries? You did not have to take him to a vet! An Aspirin would have taken care of the pain and swelling! It was a needless and expensive choice you made for your piece of mind for a dog that was hardly injured. therefore I feel you should pay for it! JMHO

It is a risk indeed, but the risks are also determined by the owner. For example, if the OP were to have walked her dog towards the two Rhodesian Ridgebacks, then yes it would be our fault. However, this isn't the case is it? She saw the two dogs and immediately attempted to move her dog away from the two RR's. This is similar to a case involving my friend's rottweiler. The rottweiler was tied towards his SUV's bumper and the SUV was parked in his driveway. A couple walking by had a shepherd mix one one of those retractable leashes. The rottie was secured and since it is HIS car parked on HIS driveway, the dog had full right to be there. The couple sees this rottie barking and snapping, but the couple still chose to walk towards his direction instead of moving away from the driveway and walking pass so that the dogs would never come in contact with each other. Instead, they allowed their dog to walk towards the direction and the dog was at least 10 feet ahead of them on the stupid retractable leash. The dog got bit by the rottie, but luckily my friend was fixing his bike inside the garage. He came out and within 2 mins. got his dog off of the mix (he had to run in and get the break stick). He got taken to court, but the judge said he was not at fault since the driveway is private property and the dog was properly secured. The couple still walks pass his house with their dog and still gives them the evil eye, but my friend just laughs and calls them irresponsible for letting their dog lead them as well as using those stupid retractable leashes. I think you seriously need some common sense.

Aspirin is not recommended for dogs!!! If given the improper dosage, aspirin is fatal. As for the procedure being needless and that she has to pay for her peace of mind, I highly disagree. Whether or not the procedures are/were necessary, let's not forget that it was the woman that caused her distress, therefore, COMMON SENSE dictates that she should be the one to pay the monetary expenses for Kit's peace of mind.

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I'm not trying to get on your case, but in your own words you don't have one! your also are blowing this minor scuffle way out of proportion! I feel you gave up the right to get money for your vet bills when the woman asked you if your dogs are ok, AND YOU SAID YES!
Also your vet didn't do anything for you or your dog except, RIP YOU OFF!
Super glue costs less than 3 bucks and thats all you would have needed to set that loose tooth. You didn't need expensive x rays, follow up visits, anti inflammatory drugs and what ever else your vet charged you for!
You also mentioned that you didn't really know and you suspected that she may have dropped the leash, well it could have happened that way, but you said you didn't really know! Now walking two large dogs at the same time isn't the easiest thing to do especially for a woman and that may have been irresponsible on her part, but you were doing the same thing! With a breed thats pound for pound the strongest canines this world knows! With a sprained elbow no less!
All I can say is SHIT HAPPENS! The woman lost control of her dog. You can't tell me your dog has never accidently yanked the leash out of your hand before, can you? It happens to everybody! Dogs will be dogs and there is no absolutes. I feel the woman is not really to blame if you truly think about it!
I also feel the expensive vet bills are your responsibilty for being paranoid at the sight of blood and a loose tooth!

Super glue, like most adhesives, is toxic to your dog!!! How the hell could you administer super glue to your dog!?!?!?

Kit walked her dog with a sprained elbow, but did she lose control of her dog? Accident or not, the woman lost control of her dog. Furthermore, if she can't control her dog, she has no business owning it. Again, common sense. Also the apbt isn't the lb. for lb. strongest dog in the world, this has been disproven. This is similar to the lock jaw that everyone believes an apbt has.

Dogs will be dogs, that is why it is up to us to have full control of our dog 100% of the damn time.

Also any responsible owner would be concerned if they see a tooth missing and blood coming out of their dog's mouth.

Damn, and people keep on saying that the sport of dog matching is cruel. I think putting the welfare of an animal in your hands would be much more inhumane than letting two dogs do what they love.

[Sniliabiz]

And WHO would put super glue in a dogs MOUTH??? Would you super glue your tooth back in???

I've heard of people using super glue in a pinch for SKIN repairs but not internally!

[Longwow]

NM, its too early to go on any more rants.

You did the right thing taking Nick to the vet, glad to hear he will be keeping his tooth. You also did the right thing reporting the incident as you are correct, these dogs get loose again and they could easily harm a human or another animal.

[8IhGpvH0]

I'm not condemning anyone! Just stating my opinion!
I was born into this breed, I've fed, watered, wormed, vaccinated, stitched, and yes superglued many injured dogs, Hence the name yardgirl! Maybe I'm just forgetting that most owners are ignorant furmommies and petbull people (the downfall of this breed) In my opinion!
But anyways
The OP said it was a loose tooth! Not broken! And In my very experienced opinion IT DID NOT NEED TO GO TO THE VET! So therefore the OP should fork out the bill!

[gooseCile]

I'm not condemning anyone! Just stating my opinion!
I was born into this breed, I've fed, watered, wormed, vaccinated, stitched, and yes superglued many injured dogs, Hence the name yardgirl! Maybe I'm just forgetting that most owners are ignorant furmommies and petbull people (the downfall of this breed) In my opinion!
But anyways
The OP said it was a loose tooth! Not broken! And In my very experienced opinion IT DID NOT NEED TO GO TO THE VET! So therefore the OP should fork out the bill!

Do you realize in many cities and counties, not taking a dog to the vet if it has an injury counts as NEGLECT and if the OP took the dog to the vet after a few days and an infection had begun to form, the vet has every right to call AC and report neglect.
It would go like this:
V- "When did the injury occur?"
OP- "A few days ago."
V- "Why didn't you take it here when the injury occured?"
OP- "Someone on an online forum called me an ignorant furmommy who owns a petbull and told me I should just superglue it, so that's what I did."
V- "Well, the infection has spread into the jaw bone, and we're going to have to remove have of your dogs' jaw. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to report this as a case of neglect."

I'm not a vet, I'm not a dentist, and I'm certainly not a dog dentist. If my dog's tooth is broken, it's going to the vet.

Because I would take my dog to a vet makes me an ignorant furmommy? Get over yourself.