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Old 05-26-2010, 09:53 PM   #1
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Default Is this inbreeding?
Ive been checking out some Peds, and something stood out as "odd" to me.



It Seems Pistol Is the Great Grandpa & the Grandpa at the same time. Is that right?

If this is inbreeding, is that something that produces "stucturally sound" Dogs. I would think not, especially since purebred dogs already have a limited gene pool.

I would assume inbreeding would be the worst thing to do, am I wrong???
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:56 PM   #2
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you are wrong

it would be the worst thing to do for BYB and folks that have zero business in breeding, but it is one of if not THE best way to establish a bloodline, keep a line pure and to keep the best traits in said line..
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:59 PM   #3
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you are wrong

it would be the worst thing to do for BYB and folks that have zero business in breeding, but it is one of if not THE best way to establish a bloodline, keep a line pure and to keep the best traits in said line..
So imbreeding IS NOT frowned upon?
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:59 PM   #4
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and im gonna add, thats using a solid, proven dog....always a good idea
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:01 PM   #5
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well, it is frowned upon by uneducated fur mommy's that LOVE to compare dogs to humans lol...

besides that, I don't think any good breeder would frown upon inbreeding or line breeding their dogs..
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:02 PM   #6
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So imbreeding IS NOT frowned upon?
no way man, not if its done by someone who knows what they are doing. they need to know the dogs they are working with inside and out, cuz you will bring out good and bad traits.... culling is absolutely necessary.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:08 PM   #7
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no way man, not if its done by someone who knows what they are doing. they need to know the dogs they are working with inside and out, cuz you will bring out good and bad traits.... culling is absolutely necessary.
WOW Crazy Stuff.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:11 PM   #8
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Maybe you are just confused because you think APBT's all look like conformation dog types? The APBT's of old had all sorts of different looks and game breeders today don't breed for the show ring.

---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:10 PM ----------

Oh wait I found another AmBully mix!

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Old 05-26-2010, 10:17 PM   #9
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inbreeding and line breeding are similar, but different
and yes it is a common practice...
some folks establish separate lines from the same original set... and then breed back and forth between lines...
it is a proven way to establish and keep good lines... good quality stock...
and it is done with everything.. dogs, fish, cows...horses etc....
maybe if humans did it, there would not be so damn many goofy and dangerous people out there...especially if good quality culling was done...
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:17 PM   #10
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Maybe you are just confused because you think APBT's all look like conformation dog types? The APBT's of old had all sorts of different looks and game breeders today don't breed for the show ring.

---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:10 PM ----------

Oh wait I found another AmBully mix!

WOW a GD mix, G'Damn.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:24 PM   #11
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so you started a thread based on Riots dam, on a topic thats already been covered 100 times?
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:26 PM   #12
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That Ambully could very well be mostly AmStaff lines so could look closer to a real dog than a mutt. :O Incest? Seriously I hope you learn a lot here about how dogs are bred, especially pure bred dogs.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:31 PM   #13
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That Ambully could very well be mostly AmStaff lines so could look closer to a real dog than a mutt. :O Incest? Seriously I hope you learn a lot here about how dogs are bred, especially pure bred dogs.
YUP I am learing

I wasnt just pointing out what appered to me as incest and it is, That has got me reserching the good and bad to incest breeding.

Keep in mind people, Im not a breeder, no plans to breed my dog, just thirsty for knowledge... At the same time, I can't help but be an ass to an ass (Any reason your using a different user name "Woody"? Split personalaty disorder?)
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:31 PM   #14
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The only time inbreeding with dogs is frowned upon is when one is using unsound mentally or structurally dogs. Also, frown upon when someone who doesn't know what they are doing does it.

When one uses inbreeding, they need to pay close attention and cull hard if necessary.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:35 PM   #15
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i left the forum for a few months, and couldnt log back on. i lost my password, so i just created another account. trust me, and anyone who knows me here, my personality hasnt changed a bit. i just used my middle name and the same D
back on topic
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:38 PM   #16
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i left the forum for a few months, and couldnt log back on. i lost my password, so i just created another account. trust me, and anyone who knows me here, my personality hasnt changed a bit.
back on topic
i dont know ya but i love your personality just how your talking on here! love the attitude about shit (not sarcasm in anyway haha) im the same way
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:48 PM   #17
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maybe if humans did it, there would not be so damn many goofy and dangerous people out there...especially if good quality culling was done...
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:48 PM   #18
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Ive been checking out some Peds, and something stood out as "odd" to me.

It Seems Pistol Is the Great Grandpa & the Grandpa at the same time. Is that right?

If this is inbreeding, is that something that produces "stucturally sound" Dogs. I would think not, especially since purebred dogs already have a limited gene pool.

I would assume inbreeding would be the worst thing to do, am I wrong???
Inbreeding dogs has been done for generations apon generations, infact my dogs are all perfect examples of how when ibreeding done correctly, the breeding program can withstand the test of time. My breeder and his family have been breeding the same family of dogs for well over 110 years now, they still produce top quality animals and every breeding that takes place does so within the same gene pool.

The ped you posted is incomplete, I cannot speculate how inbred the dog in question is, regardless tho, nothing wrong with inbreeding when it is done properly by people who have taken the time to study the dogs in the program and to cull the less desirables when nessacary.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:51 PM   #19
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http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=347346

here ya go CD
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Old 05-26-2010, 11:48 PM   #20
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Thank you Woody.....nothing wrong with that ped, the inbreeding isn't too tight to warrent any concerns that the OP was speculating it to be. But you already knew that lol.
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