[Fetowip]

Mt.carmel, illinois urgent - German Shepherd Dog Forums

Sorry, but I must rant.
For months she's been posting about her dog attacking others on walks.
She's rehomed more dogs and gotten more than I care to count.

I just cannot believe she would kill him for this. It's not his fault!

I've always tried to advise and so has everyone else.

Come on! You have your DA dog out in the yard with your kid, your kid's friend comes to the yard with her dog, your kids opens the gate - WHAT A SURPRISE.

Sorry, I am just so mad over this I cannot think. This young dog is going to die because of the owner's incompetence.

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I've given her links to SEVERAL rescues in the area... And tried my best not to fully flame her...

[Forex Trading Software]

poisoned: That really sucks.Your right,it isnt the dogs fault...its the owners. Gosh,I feel bad for the dog.Unfortunatly with his 'history' the cruel truth is,no one is going to want to adopt him.He NEEDS to get with someone experiance with high drive GSD,with the skills,knowledge and proper enviroment to work with him. Its a shame the dog will pay for his owners stupidity. Poor dog.

[sjdflghd]

Has she actually euthed him or are they just making an appt? Maybe someone can get through to her before they do it.

[Erawise]

I'll explode with you! WTH is wrong with this woman!???? Oh god, please keep me posted. Please let some one help this dog. And you're so right about DA being manageable. But the truth is, some people just choose to find excuse to get rid of whatever cause them "problem". Gosh, if I get rid of every dog that has problem, then I shouldn't even bother getting a dog. And this is what this lady should have done! UhhhGgggg! Makes me angry!

[Jueqelyl]

People refuse to see dogs as dogs. When a dog bites a dog, they think "cannibalism."

Dogs aren't people. They don't understand our thinking. They see a dog on their property and decide to keep out the intruder, the non-pack member. Or they respond to their genetic history.

People are something else. Why can't people love dogs as dogs? Why do dogs have to learn more about us than we do about them?

My sympathies.

[JesikaFlpk]

I saw this yesterday. It's terrible, but look at it this way... if the dog is euthed, at least he will be out of harm's way; he won't be in a poorly-matched household, he won't be at risk of hurting anyone/thing else and being maimed, lonely, and eventually euthed at animal control.

[Fetowip]

Since I've known her on the board, she rehomed several small dogs because the young GSD kept herding and biting them, the rehomed THAT GSD, gotten a bulldog mix pup, said he kept biting the kids, got rid of him, then she got a dane mix, then recently went to a breeder and got a female GSD... I don't know what new dogs she may have had or rehomed since last time.


No, she said she's making an appointment for tomorrow, the other members are really pulling together to try and save him from her. I've put four rescues out for her to contact.


Can anyone help me find a page on DA? And not being related to HA?

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I saw this yesterday. It's terrible, but look at it this way... if the dog is euthed, at least he will be out of harm's way; he won't be in a poorly-matched household, he won't be at risk of hurting anyone/thing else and being maimed, lonely, and eventually euthed at animal control.

Gosh don't I know... But I will do the best I can to try and get this poor boy a place, or change her mind long enough to find him one.

If he does get euthed, MAYBE she will stop snatching up every dog in sight and stop and think before she does...

[TeveVikep]

ugh!!! i hate it when people PTS dogs, because they are DA.
i also hate it when people keep dogs alive when they are unstable/unsound (human aggressive)
i hope someone can get him, before she does take him to be PTS.

[Fetowip]

Ya know i love this forum, and i keep coming back because there is great advice here...however i find it ridicoulos(sp) that not one of you was willing to help (except madonna) until i said i was having him PTS.

I did not make the appointment, and i won't. I just can't do it. He is still a wonderful dog besides with little dogs. He is great with my children. I love him to pieces, I have loved all my dogs, and have kept contact with most. I guess me going thru dog after dog, is because that is the way i grew up. I do have my new gal Sophie, however she did not come from the same breeder, that breeding ended up not taking. I am thinking about keeping him and seeing what i can do with him, if i don't keep him, i will be looking into rescues. But i think we will be finding a place for him...I evidently screwed up when he was little, and i thought i was doing good with him. Guess not. He does need a trainer, which is something i can't do. So go ahead and bash me somemore. She posted that a little while ago. At least he isn't going to die now... And she blames her childhood.

Excuse you. I grew up with BYBs who trained by hitting, sold pups to anyone, and rehomed a dog without even knowing our male had bred her and she was pregnant with 14 under two years old.
If anyone should be a bad owner, it's me.

[SHpuntik]

Glad he's not being pts.

At least you can admit it and you are obviously being responsible with the ones you've got now. That is what counts. There are so many people out there who don't give a crap even after they've been given information on how to be a responsible down owner...

[Fetowip]

I just can't believe she blames her dog trading on her upbringing...

Everyone is giving her good advice. I just hope Ryder gets the home he deserves or is let go at the rainbow bridge..

[SigNeewfoew]

I just can't believe she blames her dog trading on her upbringing...

When my fiancé was growing up, his dad went through dogs and puppies from what sounded like every other month: hounds, Beagles, Boxers, Pit mixes, German Shepherds, etc. They either ended up getting hit by a car, getting re-homed, or "disappeared." My fiancé, on the other hand, is nothing like that, and thankfully, neither is the father.

Can't blame your upbringing for your current actions when it comes to something as simple as keeping pets. If you can't handle a particular animal or breed, don't get it. If you aren't prepared for training issues or health issues that may arise, don't get it. Seems to me a problem arises, and instead of working through it, the dog goes.

[DuesTyr]

wow that majorly sucks....that is MY TOWN.......... and people out here are IDIOT red neck hicks...I'm a red neck hick so there is nothing wrong with that but the ignorance people have out here is crazy. I have told you about all the loose dogs I deal with, this town has 8,000 people in it...I could not see a photo of the dog but knowing this area it probably NEVER gets a walk or taken out of the yard for that matter. I do not believe in putting a dog down for DA but if you cannot manage it and are threatening the breed as a hole (because of your ignorance and the dog being able to attack other dogs) then I believe putting the dog down would be better if you cant rehome it. I just hate people that don't learn the 1st time (I did not read all the posts but did read how she said he bit was 3 times, it was also unclear if it was all dog bites or any bites to humans). Really really pisses me off, and the worst thing about DA out here other than ignorant owners....if you have a dog with any DA and take it to the pound...its pts that day, they keep 2-3 dogs togeather, here and at the spca in evansville.

Sorry I joined the rant and was long winded that just really pisses me off because its my neck of the woods.

[Fetowip]

Hmm, do you have any local contacts who could foster him, or know anyone looking for a working dog? I don't know anyone I'd trust in IL.

[DuesTyr]

no I would not even trust my relatives with any animal, people out here are just ignorant, they think all dogs should either be un-socialized, chained 24-7 without playing with them, (worst is the ones in kennels) or be there "babies" and have no obedience at all. There is a behaviorist in Evansville but when I had bruno they wanted 400$ just to see him 1 hour or something crazy. If they are willing to pay for the behaviorist they can contact the SPCA in evansville and ask for the info that is how I found out about it (I can't remember the name of the company but I think it had something to do with australia maybe) There is a rotty rescue that takes in other breeds out here but I have not ever contacted them about anything. This area is pretty scares on population and brains.

[OlegSan]

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is there a real reason this woman is doing this to these dogs? jeepers she's trading in dogs and getting new ones like i switch cars every 3 years!

being raised like that: NOT AN EXCUSE. when i was a kid my mother made my dog live outdoors... i was raised like that (i used to carry him upstairs after she was asleep) but i would never dream of exiling a dog to sleep outdoors!

this woman is clueless and lacks responsibility, but what's worse is she doesn't seem to have any conscience about it.
all these dogs could have skipped going to her house, and gone right to homes that would have loved and properly cared for them.

they don't need a behaviorist. they just need to stop being stupid. the dog has dog aggression. it shouldn't be outside unless a parent is there, and it should never be allowed near other dogs. *GARSH. that was difficult!*

[Fetowip]

I know... It's just nutty. 2nd dog she's tried to place on the forum in a very short time.

A member on the forum is trying to get her aunt to take him, should know by tomorrow.

[tearidrusydet]

This lady needs to stop getting any dogs at all because from the looks of it she cant handle it. Doesnt she realize that she must be doing something wrong?

[OlegSan]

someone should point that out to her.

[DuesTyr]

if I knew exactly where she lived in my town I would leave her a letter, and also contact AC to make sure they know to keep tabs on her (not saying she is being cruel or anthing but would rather not feel guilty if they knew and one of her dogs with DA ate a fu fu dog, at least then I knew I did my part)

just to add, about the letter, it would be in general about where you can go to get training and such, I am not one to confront people, I am more a person that will answer questions and talk if people talk to me 1st...well until I get to know them anyhow.