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We spent most of the day at the lake today at a family get together - needless to say, our dogs had to stay home!
![]() So on the way home, we noticed the dog park was empty.. we decided to take them there to play for a bit since it was nice! By the time we got there - there were 2-3 dogs there but we went into a seperate run area.. of course, noone ever respects you so everyone there decide to let their dogs in the run with ours.. more dogs showed up.. by this time there was a great dane, a boxer, a lab, and 2-3 other pitbulls.. we decide to take ours down to the pond (a ways away from the others) - so they are running and playing and the other dogs start running with them.. I was on guard (just in case) but they had a ball! Tink and the great dane ran the fields for 2 hours.. Spinner and the lab and other pitbulls ran and dived in the pond.. by the time we got home and bathed them - they passed out! since tomorrow is Easter - I am hoping the park will be empty and we can go back and actually get pictures.. |
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..it's just like a gambling addiction, especially if you get lucky the first time... if things go "well" for a while, people risk more and more. ![]() |
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Oh I know.. in the 3 years we have had tink - Ive been to the dog park twice. and both times, they were dead when I got there - and we left not long after ppl started showing up.. we only stayed so long today because they were getting along so great.. had a single one of them started acting out or even playing rough - Id have left that moment.. They never once left my sight and the only ones that really stayed more than 10 minutes was the great dane and lab and both owners were good with them.. they were both well behaved. I dont think they ever even jumped on each other - it was strickly running and swimming.
we will only go tomorrow if its dead.. if its busy (which I doubt), we will just go to an empty field. I would never put my dogs or someone elses dogs at risk. I know my dogs body language very well and had there been more dogs, we would have left.. ( we were going to leave when there were 6 dogs there, but the others started rounding things up pretty fast).. ---------- Post added at 11:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 PM ---------- That's a great analogy! For the love of the bullies, please do not take them to dog parks! All it takes is one incident for a community to be pushing for BSL ---------- Post added at 11:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 PM ---------- now with that said... your advice has been taken... but I assure you - my dogs are safe and will not end up the headlines in the paper! |
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I was simply going off of the feel of your post, which was: you weren't so sure if things were going to be OK, were half-way expecting that you had to leave any moment and then saw that it was awesome fun and worked out fine.. so you made the decision to go again.
Kind of like playing the lottery. I played that lottery with my first dog when she was a pup and a bit beyond that. And got addicted. Nothing ever happened, but my training progress was laughable. My trainer finally kept pushing for me to stop going and I luckily stopped going before there ever was an issue. It is really easy to keep going and keep getting "braver" (nay, stupider), though. |
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Oh no, I know what you and SAB were saying and you both are right to an extent.. (I was in no way mad and probably would have said the same thing had some one else posted my post) I just wanted it clear that. as I had stated also that when the others showed up, I was going to leave but they did not stay long.. so even though I did not fully explain the situation at first, and for about 10-15 minutes there were 5-6 other dogs there, that left 1 hour and 45 minutes of us there with just 2 other dogs. (2 very well trained dogs, and both of mine, know their basic commands very well - including return) - I am not very good at wording things so please, dont take it wrong when I say things once, sometimes I have to re-read what I wrote 2-3 times to realize it was worded/sounded wrong..
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My issue with this is that when a person posts this, it says it's okay to anyone new just sifting through posts. It says that if you're careful and responsible, go ahead! Use the dog park!
Pit bulls and dog parks don't mix. If you do it and liked it and you think that dog parks are generally a bad idea, maybe don't post about it. I would suspect that I could get away with taking my dogs there a few times, but I KNOW that my luck won't hold and they it's just not worth the risk. There would be one dog in one moment of time and I would be risking my dog's life for NOTHING. My dogs are tired after hiking, training, playing in my yard, fetch, and playing with each other. No dog parks for this crew. |
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I thought the idea of this forum is to post your experiances so others can learn from them.. (good or bad) and to learn of this breed.. We risk our breed by just walking down the street - all it takes is one time.. can you honestly say that you've never walked you dogs or taken them to the beach and never seen a stray? Your dogs might be on a leash but that does not keep the other dog from coming to you. so we should not walk our dogs anymore?? I've had dogs get in my yard, does that mean my dogs should not go outside? If you are careful and responsible, I do not see why its an issue. What your saying is every one come love my dogs.. my dogs are not the dangerous dogs you think they are, but it's not safe to take my dogs in public.. yes, they can be DA, but any dog can be. You take your dogs to shows, with many many other pitbulls.. some on leads as small as a chain necklace. My point is, at anytime anything can happen, but you don't see me demanding you lock your dogs in your house. I agree with a lot on this forum, and your right, I do not think taking them to dog parks is a smart thing if there are a lot of dogs there and/or you cannot control yours, but I do not agree with being ok with someone taking their dogs loose to a beach or field and other dogs there as well but not ok with dog parks.. either your for it or against it.. both are just as dangerous and both are just as fun.
I posted this knowing it would be up for debate.. but please do not tell me I can not take my dogs somewhere.. advise me, but do not demand me! and telling me not to post about it - just sets a fire under me.. that is what this forum is for and if not - then maybe its not the place for me! I am all about learning from my mistakes and others mistakes , but I am also about respecting others and enjoying a happy story. |
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I thought the idea of this forum is to post your experiances so others can learn from them.. (good or bad) and to learn of this breed.. We risk our breed by just walking down the street - all it takes is one time.. can you honestly say that you've never walked you dogs or taken them to the beach and never seen a stray? Your dogs might be on a leash but that does not keep the other dog from coming to you. so we should not walk our dogs anymore?? I've had dogs get in my yard, does that mean my dogs should not go outside? If you are careful and responsible, I do not see why its an issue. What your saying is every one come love my dogs.. my dogs are not the dangerous dogs you think they are, but it's not safe to take my dogs in public.. yes, they can be DA, but any dog can be. You take your dogs to shows, with many many other pitbulls.. some on leads as small as a chain necklace. My point is, at anytime anything can happen, but you don't see me demanding you lock your dogs in your house. I agree with a lot on this forum, and your right, I do not think taking them to dog parks is a smart thing if there are a lot of dogs there and/or you cannot control yours, but I do not agree with being ok with someone taking their dogs loose to a beach or field and other dogs there as well but not ok with dog parks.. either your for it or against it.. both are just as dangerous and both are just as fun. ![]() |
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The point made was very valid that someone may read a story of dogs being taken to a park and things working out ok so they may get bold and try it as well. If their results aren't as positive it can lead to a lot of trouble. It scares me when people have the attitude of their rights being taken away by not going to parks or whatever. The fact quite often is that if there are dogs around, you have a pretty volatile recipe for trouble whether it be in a paddock or by a river or whereever. Do debate semantics just adds fuel to the pig headed pit bull owner image. Things are different all around the world and in NZ owners basically have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana skin. Every owner here needs to come down hard on their own if they do anything stupid to risk more attention. I would hate to think this is how things will be all around the world.
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Menzie3 I totally feel ya. I thought this was a place where we could talk about our dogs and the fun we have, but it seems like some people are just plain negative!! When it comes down to it they are just dogs and if you are a responsible pet owner, you know your dog and what your dog feels comfortable with. And yes, I have taken one of my pitbulls to a dog park. Go ahead and start judging me all you negative nellies!
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the arguments are great from both sides... ---------- Post added at 04:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:26 PM ---------- Menzie3 I totally feel ya. I thought this was a place where we could talk about our dogs and the fun we have, but it seems like some people are just plain negative!! When it comes down to it they are just dogs and if you are a responsible pet owner, you know your dog and what your dog feels comfortable with. And yes, I have taken one of my pitbulls to a dog park. Go ahead and start judging me all you negative nellies! ---------- Post added at 04:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 PM ---------- |
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Poisoned,wrote this in another thread and I couldn't agree more,
The fact is, while you can manage these dogs with each other, you can't raise or train hundreds of years of genetics and breeding out of them. Don't take my post as an attack, I'm glad you're here as you can obviously contribute to the forums, but people who have been in this breed longer than most of us have lived say something different than you. |
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I posted this knowing it would be up for debate.. but please do not tell me I can not take my dogs somewhere.. advise me, but do not demand me! and telling me not to post about it - just sets a fire under me.. that is what this forum is for and if not - then maybe its not the place for me! I am all about learning from my mistakes and others mistakes . Sorry your ass got slapped, you brought it all on yourself. When are you people going to learn that bringing a dog bred for combat to a dog park is just a flat out stupid idea ? It doesn't matter how well your dog is behaved its the other dogs that you need to be aware of. For those of you in favor of dog parks, have you ever seen a full blown bulldawg fight unflold before your very eyes ? It takes fractions of a second for a real working terrier to get fired up and only a few more seconds after that before the real damage begins ( depending on what they are engaged with ). It is very counter-productive when your dog who was brought to a dog park to play turns play into a brawl. It blackends the eye further for the breed and helps fuel BSL. So even though it may only be YOUR dog in the altercation, that altercation can lead to OTHER peoples innocent dogs being punished in the process for your stupid ass mistake. So by you bringing your dogs to the dog park with no regards to the ramifications can cause others heartache and misery. By doing so is like saying Fuck You to the rest of us and that is what fries OUR asses and is exactly why your now dealing with the anomosity that your created. For all you who are in favor of bulldawgs attending the dog park....mind of my dogs come play too ? I promise that the beatings my dogs dish out to other dogs will not have any negative impact on the breed ( insert sarcasm here ). You see thats the thing, you never know who will bring the wrong dog to the park that day, you might get someone who owns dogs of equal or greater calibar of dog as to which I own attending your dog park and believe me, you dont ever want a true working terrier off-leash in a high energy surroundings, that is bad news for your dog and the breeds safety. Please explain how the postive far out-ways the negative, im sure we'd all like to hear your pro vs con list pans out. |
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I think if you take your dog to stupid places and your dog ends up dead or kills someone elses then you pretty much deserve to have it taken from you. As someone mentioned it is like gambling and the stakes are quite high in this game. (btw - just to clear it up.. I am not upset with anyone, I just want to understand why its ok and not ok in certain places) |
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