[aspinswramymn]

I have seen one blue dog that was most definitely an APBT (amazing body structure, almost like a blue Lil' Bit or something like that). It was a beautiful dog. So, I disagree that no blue dog can be an APBT.

Your dog doesn't look like an American Bully to me.

I hope that you nor TAT took me the wrong way.......

I saw this picture of an American Staffordshire Terrier on another forum. She looks nice.

I have seen this dog before......BEAUTIFUL! (not in person of course)

[uneniaPhenits]

Geez....the resemblence to you-know-who is striking!

yeah, his picture is in one of Strattons books, I was doing a re re re re re re read in bed and saw it right after that infamous "show us your blue dog" thread . I was like Holy SH$%

[uneniaPhenits]

I hope that you nor TAT took me the wrong way.......

I didn't take it any way

[aspinswramymn]

I didn't take it any way

k....good!

[ddwayspd]

Definitely not an Am Bully! I am one of those people who always say "blue hippos" when referring to Am bullies, because I have rarely seen an Am Bully that wasn't blue! I have also seen VERY few APBTs that were blue, but they definitely DO happen. A blue dog will have a blue nose.. a blue dog will not have a black nose. My boy Ruger is APBT and a blue brindle...



And I have seen one solid blue APBT male who was damn gorgeous... but I'd have no idea where his pictures are now.

[j2Y6Ysmb]

So I still don't know how to tell if his nose is really black or really not black, lol.

Anyone wanna come over and look at his nose for me, lol? It's almost like I'd need to have a true blue dog to compare his nose to.

If his nose *is* black, but his fur is still blue-ish, what would his "official" color be called then?

It will be funny if he's not considered a 'blue' dog, because then when people ask if he's a blue-nose, I can say 'no, silly! He's a black-nose' and then everyone will think he's something uber-rare and I can sell him for $8,000 on craigslist!

Why don't people say 'black-nose' anyway? It's always either blue or red!

My neighbor's mom calls his color 'liver'.

[aspinswramymn]

So I still don't know how to tell if his nose is really black or really not black, lol.

Anyone wanna come over and look at his nose for me, lol? It's almost like I'd need to have a true blue dog to compare his nose to.

If his nose *is* black, but his fur is still blue-ish, what would his "official" color be called then?

It will be funny if he's not considered a 'blue' dog, because then when people ask if he's a blue-nose, I can say 'no, silly! He's a black-nose' and then everyone will think he's something uber-rare and I can sell him for $8,000 on craigslist!

Why don't people say 'black-nose' anyway? It's always either blue or red!

My neighbor's mom calls his color 'liver'.

Yes.......Liver:
Dilutions affecting black pigment the most profoundly:
(two alleles: B,b) - commonly called liver dilute, red dilute or brown dilute - black pigment is lightened and reddened to chocolate, liver or deep red. Red pigments are lightened from red to tan. Liver dobes, Pharaoh hounds and Ibizan Hounds are common examples. I have seen liver dilute Borzoi also but it is very rare and undesired since the noses are definately red to brown. The color of skin that is normally black is also affected, as is eye color. The dogs will have yellow eyes and pink to red to chocolate nose leather, lip rims and eye rims. The liver or brown (b) condition is recessive .
2. "D" series -commonly called blue dilute -(two alleles: D,d) black pigment is diluted to blue, red & yellow pigment is washed out towards silver. The dilute (d) condition is recessive. Blue danes and dobes are common examples. This dilution is more common in Borzoi than liver dilution since a dark grey nose in a white or silver dog is not as markedly light as is the liver nose in a white dog. They eyes are generally lighter than in undiluted litter mates and may be blue at birth darkening to a paper bag colored yellow-gray by a year of age. The nose leather, eye rims and lip edges will be dark grey. Some blue dilute individuals may have acceptably dark eyes. This is probably due to the presence for an independent gene for dark eyes.

[tabcdyop]

I wouldn't say he is a bully. But I wouldn't call him an APBT either without knowing what his pedigree is. But I'm like that. I refer to all my rescued dogs as "mutts" or mixes no matter how closely they resemble any of the "pit bull" breeds.

[blogwado]

I hope that you nor TAT took me the wrong way.......

Oh, no. I was just responding to her first post. I knew what you mean. It's all good.

[ddwayspd]

Rai, blue dogs can not have black noses. So, your dog has to have a blue nose, since he IS blue. The shade of blue can vary, and it can look black or almost purple.

There are all sorts of nose colours... red, liver, blue, black, dudley (pink, without pigment), butterfly (with some pink and some colour)... all of which correspond to what colour the dog is. You can't have a black dog with a red nose (but, they can have a butterfly nose) and you can't have a blue dog with a black nose.

[aspinswramymn]

That is not exactly correct. There are "blue to the eye" dogs, but are not real true blues unless their nose is grey. There are "blue to the eye" dogs that have black noses. Just because a dog looks "blue" does not mean that he is a true blue. Only if their noses are grey.
I will find the info on it and links to explain better.

[j2Y6Ysmb]

That is not exactly correct. There are "blue to the eye" dogs, but are not real true blues unless their nose is grey. There are "blue to the eye" dogs that have black noses. Just because a dog looks "blue" does not mean that he is a true blue. Only if their noses are grey.
I will find the info on it and links to explain better.

I'm starting to think he is blue, because I've always thought his pads and nose were dry because they are not shiny black like my girl's nose. Now I'm thinking that's just the color, grey.

[j2Y6Ysmb]

I wouldn't say he is a bully. But I wouldn't call him an APBT either without knowing what his pedigree is. But I'm like that. I refer to all my rescued dogs as "mutts" or mixes no matter how closely they resemble any of the "pit bull" breeds.

I can respect that. But is there anything about any of his measurements or looks that would lead you to believe he is mixed with anything specific? I mean, whether or not you would personally consider him a 'pure' APBT, is there anything that stands out that you would say makes him not, besides having unknown parentage?

[j2Y6Ysmb]

Rai, blue dogs can not have black noses. So, your dog has to have a blue nose, since he IS blue. The shade of blue can vary, and it can look black or almost purple.

There are all sorts of nose colours... red, liver, blue, black, dudley (pink, without pigment), butterfly (with some pink and some colour)... all of which correspond to what colour the dog is. You can't have a black dog with a red nose (but, they can have a butterfly nose) and you can't have a blue dog with a black nose.

So even if his nose were to look black visually, he would still be considered a 'blue-nose' dog because of his coat color, correct?

[Deribasov]

i would not say he is an Ambully, you can check out the new Am Bully thread on here and i have posted some pics of some AmBullys that fit under the ABKC (American Bully Kennel Club) standards, some are even CH's. No matter what he is, just be proud of him, b/c he is handsome! the pics for me are hard to tell if he is a blue or not, and i have a question for everyone, i have seen Blue Fawns (fawn with blue mask/muzzle) with a true Blue nose, but i have seen Blue dogs with black noses, so who qualifies as more of a blue dog? lol.

[MizzDaizzy]

You tell me what this dog is that I got from the animal shelter...
Bully or AmStaff?

Her personality fits the true APBT....
people lover, knows NO aggression towards people, yet, is animal aggressive.
(As they say, the true would make a poor "guard dog")

[L8fGLM4d]

pit bulls can also be blue. but it is rare. because it is on the genetics of the parents who get the colored puppies.
and because a good dog has no color ....

look at this link http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dilutions.html

[SkHukV3N]

I've heard it explained that the pure, game-bred APBT will not show be blue because that is a trait from Am Staffs (one of the breeds that came from mixing APBTs with other breeds to create a show dog of sorts). Looking back in APBT history, you really won't see dogs that vary from the buckskin, black, "moo moo" (black and white), or brindle color, but that doesn't mean that blue dogs didnt exist. I've never seen a picture of an old-time dog that was blue, but of course many of the pictures are in b&w so maybe a blue dog would simply show up black?
Color isn't important to me at all, MJ could be purple for all I care

[MizzDaizzy]

It's just awesome that I came across this dog at the animal shelter when I told myself I didn't want anymore dogs after losing a Pitbull of mine to cancer 7 months prior.
Her characteristic traits fits exactly that listed in the pitbulllovers.com
website.

The only thing I have to work on her with is her jumping.
The kind of jumping up that may or may not slam paws into your stomach, but mostly it's the "HUG ME! HUG ME" jumping on me and other people.

Otherwise, she's pretty well mannered on the leash, doesn't take ME for walks, and walks mostly beside me.
Sometimes she'll forget and walk slightly ahead of me with the leash slightly taught. - good correction is I slacken the leash, then change directions! Then she starts watching me more! lol It's lots of fun to work with her at the park and out and about.
(And no, I dont mean dog parks. I mean the kind of park where ALL DOGS are required to be on leashes, and if an unleashed dog comes running up, it's my chance to chew the owners out for having a leash in their hands and not using it in a leash-regulated park)

ACO owned by a pitbull

[retrahdggd]

beautiful Dog could very well be Amstaff with the coloring and the size
this is the question you will never answer... but you can be sure its a beautiful dog