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Old 01-24-2010, 06:17 PM   #1
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I think this would be a great idea! I would like to get your opinion on specific literature/videos/whatever to have potential adopters go over prior to adopting a pit. I ONLY foster "pits" so I would like to get together some sort of prerequisite package for my applicants. Thoughts?
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:29 PM   #2
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A few Stratton books,the complete gamedog or pit bull bible and a few match reports to start with. It should be for rescues aswell otherwise it is a bit hypocritical.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:31 PM   #3
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I think this would be a great idea! I would like to get your opinion on specific literature/videos/whatever to have potential adopters go over prior to adopting a pit. I ONLY foster "pits" so I would like to get together some sort of prerequisite package for my applicants. Thoughts?
You want to drive your point....hand them a breakstick. When they ask whats its for tell them, that will open up some eyes as to what they may be dealing with.

IMHO, that is what all rescue should do, I have one rescue that I am currently working with ( wholesale wise on my product ) that is incorperating giving out a breakstick with every dog they adopt out.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:42 PM   #4
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You want to drive your point....hand them a breakstick. When they ask whats its for tell them, that will open up some eyes as to what they may be dealing with.

IMHO, that is what all rescue should do, I have one rescue that I am currently working with ( wholesale wise on my product ) that is incorperating giving out a breakstick with every dog they adopt out.
Good idea but expensive! If you want to go ahead and send them my way I would do it

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A few Stratton books,the complete gamedog or pit bull bible and a few match reports to start with. It should be for rescues aswell otherwise it is a bit hypocritical.
The only problem with a WHOLE book is the cost. I need like excerpts or specific pages I can copy. I am totally not kidding about doing this.

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Anything that anybody sends, regardless of my opinion will be given to the applicant. I obviously cant give 500 things but if I widdle it down to even 20 pages, a video, and some pictures thatd be fine.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:37 PM   #5
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As Colbydogs posted, in every prerequisite package there should be a breakstick with instructions on how to use it.

You are asking for what to put in this package, and so far the two suggestions you did get, are too expensive
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:53 PM   #6
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reading only gets you so far. you wanna leave a lasting impression with a person and make sure they are ready? show them the nature of these dogs. maybe walk a dog with them in a relatively mellow environment and point out potential problems as you go. yeah i know that sounds like a risky deal, but like i said, you can read all you want, imo that doesnt make you ready.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:13 PM   #7
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As Colbydogs posted, in every prerequisite package there should be a breakstick with instructions on how to use it.

You are asking for what to put in this package, and so far the two suggestions you did get, are too expensive
I cant afford to give everyone breaksticks and books. I can explain what a breakstick is and take parts of the books copied. I just really cant afford to give everyone about $50 worth the items I was talking about reading, videos, things to explain. I can def explain what a breakstick is but providing one isnt an option I am part of the working poor.

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reading only gets you so far. you wanna leave a lasting impression with a person and make sure they are ready? show them the nature of these dogs. maybe walk a dog with them in a relatively mellow environment and point out potential problems as you go. yeah i know that sounds like a risky deal, but like i said, you can read all you want, imo that doesnt make you ready.
THATS A GREAT IDEA! I think I will actually do that for sure.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:23 PM   #8
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I cant afford to give everyone breaksticks and books. I can explain what a breakstick is and take parts of the books copied. I just really cant afford to give everyone about $50 worth the items I was talking about reading, videos, things to explain. I can def explain what a breakstick is but providing one isnt an option I am part of the working poor.
My partner and I offer wholesale pricing, its not that expensive when you buy in bulk. You can always add in the cost with the adoption fee to recover your invested money.

You can send me a PM if your ever interested, your in the same state so im sure we can even work around the shipping charges to help reduce the cost more.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:25 PM   #9
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My partner and I offer wholesale pricing, its not that expensive when you buy in bulk. You can always add in the cost with the adoption fee to recover your invested money.

You can send me a PM if your ever interested, your in the same state so im sure we can even work around the shipping charges to help reduce the cost more.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:40 PM   #10
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have the breakstick be a Req. for them to get the dog, they must get it prior to you giving them the dog and such, also I think mandatory training classes, where they call you up and tell you the class and you verify. A really good one would be them getting on this forum, before you hand them the dog, to learn, read stories and such. Drive home the no dog parks, have some stories from here on that subject. I would also make them take a test, not a huge test, but a what to do, how to do this sorta test. I would tell them the importance of good kibble (if the dog has been in your posetion for a while then the kibble they are on) and the potential allergies that often occur with this breed. And what Woody D said too.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:52 PM   #11
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have the breakstick be a Req. for them to get the dog, they must get it prior to you giving them the dog and such, also I think mandatory training classes, where they call you up and tell you the class and you verify. A really good one would be them getting on this forum, before you hand them the dog, to learn, read stories and such. Drive home the no dog parks, have some stories from here on that subject. I would also make them take a test, not a huge test, but a what to do, how to do this sorta test. I would tell them the importance of good kibble (if the dog has been in your posetion for a while then the kibble they are on) and the potential allergies that often occur with this breed. And what Woody D said too.
Great ideas! I think maybe reading the stories on here would really help too. I always recommend a type of kibble prior to adopting them out...it depends on the dog what I recommend...usually I try to get them into raw if that fails I do a good kibble rec.

I think the classes idea is good if the dog isnt trained yet, maybe I could work something out with my friend who works at a local shelter that offers classes.
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:55 PM   #12
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...usually I try to get them into raw if that fails I do a good kibble rec.
I, personally, wouldn't recommend raw considering the fact of how technical it is and how easily it is to harm the dog if you don't know exactly what you're doing or how to feed raw. Too much info and I don't have faith in humans to do their actual homeworks. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:20 PM   #13
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I, personally, wouldn't recommend raw considering the fact of how technical it is and how easily it is to harm the dog if you don't know exactly what you're doing or how to feed raw. Too much info and I don't have faith in humans to do their actual homeworks. Just my opinion.
There isnt much to it- throw meat in the yard I am guess we have very diff opinions on what raw is.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:25 PM   #14
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I think a breakstick is mandatory with this breed and how to properly use one.

Strike up a friendly conversation mentioning NO dog parks and why you shouldn't take one to the dog park. You can print up packets and copy them where ever you have a printer store (We have insty prints here) and they can print stuff up for you. Like articles from bad rap and how to crate and rotate, etc.

Also ask them why they want an APBT or 'bully' breed. I for one think they should be experienced dog owners even if they haven't had a bully breed before; they need to understand the breed.

They need to know what they are getting into and this breed is not anything like other breeds. If they are experienced, that's fine. I would also mention about them not needing dog buddies and they can have DA at anytime and should never leave their dogs unsupervised.

Even if they believe oh if they grow up together, they'll be just fine. Explain to them that's not the case and they need to have a thick skin owning this breed.

Also a good thing would be having them join here if possible. They can learn so much here. Also they need to make the dog a bully ambassador and get their CGC and possibly their TT (temperment test) ..

Also explain that they need the highest quality food and not a grocery store kibble as they are very prone to allergies. Sorry for the long post.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:33 PM   #15
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There isnt much to it- throw meat in the yard I am guess we have very diff opinions on what raw is.
Here's some information on feeding raw. There is alot to know about it:

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=1737
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:46 PM   #16
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Here's some information on feeding raw. There is alot to know about it:

http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=1737
Yea I dont buy the premade stuff and also I have heard very mixed things about nutrition from vets...my dogs have been given great bills of health thus far. All I do is the I think someone called "prey model" or whatever. It isnt really complicated just meat and oil.

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I think a breakstick is mandatory with this breed and how to properly use one.

Strike up a friendly conversation mentioning NO dog parks and why you shouldn't take one to the dog park. You can print up packets and copy them where ever you have a printer store (We have insty prints here) and they can print stuff up for you. Like articles from bad rap and how to crate and rotate, etc.

Also ask them why they want an APBT or 'bully' breed. I for one think they should be experienced dog owners even if they haven't had a bully breed before; they need to understand the breed.

They need to know what they are getting into and this breed is not anything like other breeds. If they are experienced, that's fine. I would also mention about them not needing dog buddies and they can have DA at anytime and should never leave their dogs unsupervised.

Even if they believe oh if they grow up together, they'll be just fine. Explain to them that's not the case and they need to have a thick skin owning this breed.

Also a good thing would be having them join here if possible. They can learn so much here. Also they need to make the dog a bully ambassador and get their CGC and possibly their TT (temperment test) ..

Also explain that they need the highest quality food and not a grocery store kibble as they are very prone to allergies. Sorry for the long post.
and gas/squirt poops. I love the long post thank you! I def am taking any and all advice. I would really like to get peoples opinions on specific literature/videos. IE: page # of book, articles, etc. Thoughts?
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:50 PM   #17
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Glad to help. By videos, what kind of videos are you looking for? On youtube or something? Positive press? History? General Myths, etc. ?

I can't provide you with the books, I would take up Colbydogs on their offer and I am sure he could get you hooked up with the books.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:52 PM   #18
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Yea I dont know thats why I need advice. I cant figure out what to cover because I would end up with a truckload of stuff I contacted colby and I am getting some breaksticks to start from him.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:57 PM   #19
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I steal this page from BadRap and print them out:
http://badrap.org/rescue/dogpark.html

I also like this handout from PBRC
http://www.pbrc.net/misc/PBRC_dogpark.pdf
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:06 PM   #20
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Why would you want to add a breakstick in the take home "care package"? Sounds like you are starting off with a negative additude towards the dog. Training classes, and reading material would be sufficient.
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