[Xiciljed]

I know there are haters of mr. Millan but I watch it even though i dont agree with him on a few things. Last night I watched an episode that drove me nuts. It probably was a repeat, I dont know, I dvr it.

So this akita was like 2 and half years old, wouldnt take to a leash being on him, never walked outside of the home, lived outside on concrete in a dog house. The owner got him at 6 months old and never had taken him to the vet because it was impossible to put a leash on him.

Ok so this is what pissed me off first of all. This akita was walking very funny, like his back legs were limp and then picking them off the ground in a prancing type of way. It looked very strange. Before taking the dog to the vet for a first check up, Cesar brings the dog to his compound to swim him. I really think a vet check was in order first, before exposing his dogs to a possible disease. Cesar mentioned that the dog may have had parvo or distemper before and that is why he walks wobbly, but dont you think the dog would have been dead if it never had seen a vet before?

Ok second thing that pissed me off. When cesar finally got a leash on the dog, he should have walked him around in his own territory before taking him outside the gates. While he managed to get him out the gates, by dragging him. I think that the whole process would have been smoother had he not been in a hurry. Normally cesar takes the time to let a dog get used to something before moving forward, but in this episode, it seemed like he was in a hurry.

So basically this is my rant... Just wondering if anyone else saw this and found it alarming?

For the record, I learn a lot about body language of dogs, keeping good positive energy as an owner from cesars show. I disagree with his leash corrections, heeling the dog, and poking it. I disagree with not using praise when praise is due. But who am I? Not the dog whisperer.

[broksaksaak]

why do you watch it if it upsets you so much? As I have said before, there are other things that go on at the show that we dont see. he talks with those people a lot more than we see on tape. Often times you will see a dramatic jump in behavior with a dog and i think thats because we dont see some of the time spent with the dog, its bad and than its not so bad-probably be cause they cut stuff out. I have seen this epsiode several times and he spends a great deal amount of time with the dog, holding his back legs up down the hill. He didnt use any harsh techniques on this dog and the dog was never freaking out or scared. i saw nothing wrong with that episode and im literally annoyed with people bashing him. if you think you can do better, be a dog trainer and get out there and do it. no point complaining in front of a computer screen, it does nothing. Besides if anyone has unruley dogs at there own home, you have no place to talk since you can control your own 'pack.' I have 4 dogs, I use his methods and I have amazing control over my doggies, and I have him to thank for it. I want to get his books.

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i ment to add we dont know if he spoke to a vet or the owners told them why his legs are like that, and they cut it out or something.

[Leczyslaw]

I saw another episode where he was draggin' a little dog around that wouldn't walk on leash and all I kept thinking was it looked like the dog had a neurological issue not a leash issue. Sure enough, turns out that was the issue. I thought it was rather obvious myself. I don't know why the original rescue it was with didn't take it in for a vet check up in the first place.

[Xiciljed]

Hucklebutt, I know you follow him and everything he does. And that is fine if it works for you. This is probably the first episode that I have ever watched that bothered me. The point Im making is that I am surprised that he didnt seem to think getting the hips/legs checked was important. I was hoping they could find out what was wrong with the dog. They appeared to eventually take the dog to the vet but just got vaccinations. As I said, Cesar normally takes his time with dogs, especially fear issues... and this dog he just seemed like he was in a hurry. I think Cesar is amazing in many ways. He has a knack for finding a good way to relate a persons life to how they raise their dog. I love the show. I just dont use his tactics, besides watch body language and try to control my personal energy. I was just wondering if anyone else was bothered by it.

I dont know why you seem to be attacking me. My dog is not unruly anymore, so therefore I must be doing something right with my 9 month old puppy who does not get leash corrections anymore, and gets lots of praise.

[broksaksaak]

just my oppinion, you asked for it, you got it.

[PaulRyansew]

I learn a lot about dog body language from watching his show. Almost every time he says a dog has become "calm submissive", you can see the dog shutting down. I've seen just about every sign of distress a dog can make from watching that show.

[neerewed]

His methods worked with our Rotti, but with Lucy it freaks her out and Bully shuts down. I'm still with there is so much we don't see and not everything will work for every dog.

[broksaksaak]

i dont see dogs shutting down, i see dogs giving up. dogs are stronger than we give them credit for, thats for sure.

[sposicke]

Just remember, what you see is a weeks worth of taping, edited down to a 30 minute show. Who knows what ends up on the edit room floor that you never see... those are the scenes I would like to see.

[broksaksaak]

i agree i would like to see it too. i have seen there 'extras' and there funny as hell.

[Xiciljed]

At first I tried some of the tactics with Cruz... honestly, I would poke him and he wouldnt even turn around to look at me. This boy has some tough skin I guess. I even have fake nails you would think he would feel. I do use verbal corrections, interuptions, but not shhhhh. Again, shhh did not phase him... "EH EH" does. If I was to hit my heel into his side, I bet he would shut down though... start cowering and Id have to drag him. Cruz has a tendency to shut down when he doesnt get what I want from him. That is why I reinforce what I do want him to do. Every dog is different. For the most part, most of the dogs respond to cesars corrections, probably because they have never been corrected before, or if they have it was probably more yelling. But I have seen a few dogs resist his corrections, like my Cruz would.

[Nptxsews]

I watch him, and like some of his methods, and not others.

As for him taking Roscoe outside his territory, they explained why that happened. From living on the concrete his nails were so worn down they looked painful. Ceasar said taking him to the park with softer footing would be easier on Roscoe. Also the new scenery perked his interest a bit.

[Gaxiciverfere]

the no praise thing, amyhatcher mentioned. certain dogs respond very excitedly with praise, so reason being with those dogs its better to not praise them untill everything is done and they CAN be a bit excited. just like with my dog i dont praise him while he walks correctly on the leash, i do it right before we get back into the house when we are done with the walk.

[Xiciljed]

Kit, yeah that was good he took the dog to the park. I just meant the first time he got the leash on him and went straight outside of his territory.

Shadow, I know what you mean... but he rarely if at all praises a dog. My dog would start gallopping when I would say good boy when walking. So now I might mutter quietly "good" Or try to wear a huge smile so he can feel my energy! H ahahah

[Creelaleps]

You really have to keep reminding yourself when you're watching those shows that it doesn't happen as quickly as it appears - whether it's Milan, Stilwell or anyone else. I much prefer Stilwell's methods, but it doesn't hurt to pick up bits and pieces from everyone. It's the same with horse trainers - there are sooo many of them out there too and each has his/her own methods.

It's critical to be keenly aware of what your own dog needs, how it reacts and what you're comfortable doing. Every dog/owner combo is different.

It's funny, I find myself watching the dog training shows and thinking how clueless some of the owners are and how simple some of the fixes are, and yet, my border collie is far from perfect!

Still, I love happy endings when a dog/owner with issues becomes a team

[broksaksaak]

to me stillwell is a pansy. she tip toes around problems and redirects and avoids. thats not dealing with it head on. last episode a dashund was food agressive, she simply said just feed them seperately when cesar would have wanted to correct it.

[Creelaleps]

Ahh, but didn't you love seeing her go off on that owner when he was ignoring her? I've never seen her get that mad before!

[broksaksaak]

i didnt watch the whole eppisdoe i couldnt stumach it. lol.

[Creelaleps]

They "kissed and made up", but she was really mad, told him he was rude and why should she bother helping when he wasn't paying attention. He was messing with his cell phone while she was working with the dog at the park. She was ticked off!

[broksaksaak]

yea i like how she told off the girl it was funny.